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Stu.
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Do we agree with Irwin?

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t295249p1/

Apparently irwin thinks that plastic bearing blocks are a bad idea.

Apparently Irwin knows how to design a pure throughbred heli for hard 3D



Discuss

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Do we really have to bring him into conversation? Really?

I'd buy a quickie but i guarantee you it'd be in Amsterdam.

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I have to admit its pretty low attacking another manufacturer on a public forum rather than voicing it directly to them.

If Quicks were any good we would ahve seen them at the top events.3DM etc.

We havent. What does that say in itself?

Yes Synergy for the moment has some QC issues. But the deisgn is good, the flight characteristics are excellent. More than can be said about Quicks (ive had a couple)

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Hi

Ahh that will be why irwin has enjoyed such massive global sucess with his products then

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Now, now.... Bob you should be working!!

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irwin is just jumping on the bandwagon trying to get a few sales.

typical of what i've read from him. he wishes he had a heli as good as the synergy (and the synergy has still some growing pains) after his billion years in the market.

here's a bet irwin, i bet you a synergy wins a top event before a quick ww heli, how fair is that? you have a 20 year jump design/manufacturing wise.

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I offered to fly a Quick at next years 3D masters in a PM to Irwin a while back when we were discussing some of his helis.

Naturally he ignored it I would honestly do it, however mad that is.

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I don't think and $1,100 90 size heli should have plastic bearing blocks either. Or $50.00 crown gears. Or so forth. I think it's a good heli, but I would not spend 1100 on one. Has anyone read Simon's review on littlerotors? I would also be upset about shafts that are soft on my high dollar heli. I guess you guys can go bashing him for giving an honest opinion.

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they are plastic for a reason, does no one understand that?

since when has irwin been honest? he will do anything to bash another and bum his heli up. dial indicate a torque tube springs to mind.

i don't care if the pope wrote a review, i judge with my own models and what i have seen, i read the review in rotorworld and it's a lot of garbage.

btw i never paid 1100 for mine.

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raptorheli2

So your saying that you have no respect for Simon's review on littlerotors? He is "full of garbage"?

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QWW Heli Flyer......
i feel your pain, it will ease.

show me where is said that? are you putting words in peoples mouths again?

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Shuttlepilot,

Do you actully have a synergy? if oyu dont shut up and go away. Some of us paid money for these, I also paid for Irwins Helis too, so i would hope an opinion from both sides of the fence is a balanced one.

If you do, tell us WHY plastic bearing blocks arent good enough.

Irwin isnt always right, and is very blind to his own faults. After 20 years id hope to be a dominant player in this market.

Synergy is, and theyve only been going 2 months.

Irwins mouth and lack of thought before he opens it is his worst enemy.

The big question is.....is a Quick WW Big Bertha better than a Synergy?

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oh and btw, i said rotorworld, not littlerotors fyi. just incase you missed that part.

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Stu,

Calm down and don't get so bent. I think the jist of this is that NO ONE can critisize a synergy on this forum without everyone's jaw dropping and going "you just don't know what your're talking about". NO I don't own a synergy, I'm not going to put the money into it for the initial kit. Do I think it's a bad heli....no, certainly not. Does it have bits that I would rather be different....yes. Am I a big 3d flyer...no, just like 90% of the heli community. Do the Quicks deserve their rep that some of the crowd give them....based on my experience...no. For my style of flying....aeros and some basic 3d, my helis are more than capable....and if I don't crash, they pretty much don't wear out abnormally. I'm just stating observations, would I fly with you guys....sure, I don't care what you fly, I just enjoy helis. Do I agree with Irwin's tatics.....not always. I've been around many types of helis since 1986 and have seen many changes. I have owned Quicks for the last 4 years, and I just don't see all of the "issues" that some folks state. And Stu, no I won't shut up, but thanks for asking..

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NO ONE can critisize a synergy on this forum without everyone's jaw dropping and going "you just don't know what your're talking about".


have you noticed who has found most of the issues with this heli and posted it on rr? your talking to 2 of them right now so it's not that you can't say anything bad.....we said it first!

if there is a problem with the synergy then we posted, right or wrong we did, they are fixing those problems as we speak and fixed the bulk of them already.

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Buy a synergy and see a heli that will blow ANY HHI stuff away.

The point is....IF HHI could produce a heli half as good then Irwin could reasnably have a point of view.

On the Forums voicing your opinion? LOW. Incredibly LOW

Augusto puts it best.....you will not compete with others unless oyu ahve a superior product. Saying it is superior, doesnt automatically make it superior.

This is about Irwins business tactics. Which to be honest are quite pathetic. Slagging someone else off to make yourself look better is incredibly bad business.

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The point is....IF HHI could produce a heli half as good then Irwin could reasnably have a point of view.


I have heard this since I have been involved on this forum.....but QWW is still in business. So something must be working. I guess all of the Quick owners that aren't on RR don't know what a terrible heli that they have.... I guess ignorance is bliss.

Should he have made negative comments on the Quick forum....maybe not. Isn't that what you are doing on the Synergy forum about the Quicks also? I guess since your're not in the heli business, proper tactics don't come into play then....

Anyhow, you guys have a good day.

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QWW is in business because Irwin has diversified his business and does not count on the income of just producing model helicopters to survive.

As far as "all" of the QWW owners that don't know what they have. I have been to flying fields all over the country this past summer, and I can honestly say I have been to 100 pilot events where not one QWW helicopter was present.

I have also been present when Irwin and members of his staff, brought machines to the flight line, several times, and never saw anything more than a shaky hover.

Most posts on the forum are from new users, first post and if I ask any kind of question based on real specifications and accepted methods of basing performance, I find my questions go unanswered.

And Irwin himself has admited in print, he doesn't fly 3D.

The current market is driven by 2 things, the ability of the machine to perform "hard" 3D (everyone want's to fly like Jason, Danny, Marcus, pick one) and customer service.

QWW needs to prove themselves by the current market standard to be considered "marketable".

Irwin has offered me a discount to try one of his helicopters, but until I see some proof of the abilties of the helicopters performance, I'm not willing to risk the cost of electronics and carbon blades to test it out.

Just an observation.

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He is just trying to get his forum post count up. Pathetic it's only 3000 after several years.

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