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Grant H
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So the Lepton as been around for years???sometimes I think people post here just to see their own posts


TWO different statements here clown. Let me spell it out for you.

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Not me, expecially when there are better, proven helis in that same category.


AS the Lepton isnt even released, it cant be proven. AND it is not in the same class as the 600. So, it is NOT a proven heli and it is NOT in the same category as the 600. Is that so hard to understand?


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I have preordered the Lepton, which is sure to be a hit.


Second statement from my orginal post, that has NOTHING to do with the proven heli statement.

Some people are so thick headed.
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gkoutsis
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I am sure the lepton will hava bigger success.

1st beeing a Hirobo
2nd beeing smaller than a 30size.

For me the main reason to fly electric is the size and the less space you need to fly it.
Of course others will disagree.

But lets sit back and see what happens

George
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Grant H
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Bottom line is the Lepton is NOT a proven ship yet you are getting one regardless if its in the same class


I didnt F'n say it was.

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yet you are getting one


Yes. Absolutly, it is a Hirobo.
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H0ndaJunkie
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Everyone flies whatever size heli they want to for their own reasons. Just because some people fly electrics because they are small is a moot point. Not everyone is limited to a back yard. I'm not.

I have two T-Rex 450s, and I HAD a Raptor 60V2. I got sick of Nitro and all of the hassle involved with it, and decided that I wanted a slightly smaller bird than the Raptor, but I wanted electric instead. I also like the look of the smaller T-rex.

Enter the T-Rex 600.

People's reasons for buying the 600 are mostly irellevant. It's a hobby.

I would hope that the Szabos have been in the heli scene for long enough that they would have enough respect for the industry and themselves to refrain from putting their name, or seal of approval on anything that wasn't truly up to par. Who knows, but I'd rather assume that than think that the Szabos sold out.

As far as revisions go......maybe the whole separating swash fiasco might not have occured if Align had flown the Szabos out to test the original 450XLs? In any account, whenever I buy something, there are always certain things that I immediately upgrade. You never get all of the best stuff on any kit.....they want you to upgrade. I bought a brand new car a few years ago.......what was the first thing I did? I put wheels on it!

Helis are no different.

The Lepton looks good, but the 600 looks better. No-one's seen the Lepton fly yet, everyone's seen Danny flying the 600. Hirobo and TT make great helis, yet so do Align......we all own 450s don't we?

I really don't think anyone should be getting agro about the next heli that someone else is going to buy. Buy whatever you want, it makes no difference to me whatsoever.
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Grant H
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ALign has sold thousands and thousands of T-rexs so companies get "proven" faster now days.It


No. Companies dont get proven faster.

The T-Rex is not a proven heli nor is Align a proven company, unless maybe you are talking about vacume cleaners or something like that. It has been out for 2 years. In that 2 years, they have released numerous upgrade after upgrade AND YET after all these upgrades have been released there are still mods that NEED to be done, in order to make the Rex airworty. Not mods that make it super-dooper. But mods that you need, so it actually FLY and not come apart!!

With this last relases, they have FINALLY fixed the swashplate issue and JUST NOW relased a tail hub that should fix most of those problems. Its taken them 2 years.

People were willing to over look the quality issues (myself included)) with the 450 Rex because it was just so damn convient and I believe thats why it was a sucess. The inital price also had something to do with it. Remember how much the oringal Rex450X cost. Wasnt it like $70-80. It didnt matter if it came apart in the air, because it was pretty unlikely that it would hurt anyone.

So, lets all go out and spend a crap load of money on a new 600 heli. People have only yet to realize how much it will cost. Try crashing the new 600 once and tell me how much its going to cost ya? You can bet that if its a big crash, your lipos will be destoryed and thats $250 right there for the CHEAP batteries! A good set of blades for a 600 sized heli are going to cost around $100. A lot of a difference than the $65 lipos and $15 blades the the 450 takes, huh?
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H0ndaJunkie
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It has been out for 2 years. In that 2 years, they have released numerous upgrade after upgrade AND YET after all these upgrades have been released there are still mods that NEED to be done, in order to make the Rex airworty. Not mods that make it super-dooper. But mods that you need, so it actually FLY and not come apart!!


Looks like you might to check your building skills, because all of my stock rexes have flown great. LOL
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KevinR
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Not mods that make it super-dooper. But mods that you need, so it actually FLY and not come apart!!


So could you tell me these mods I NEED to do? I've got over 100 flights on my SE V1 and it hasn't come apart yet so I better ground it until I do these NEEDED mods. Maybe I just got lucky with a good one though.
Actually, now that I think about it, I did take the head apart and threadlock everything but not sure if that's considered a mod.
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Hoverdown3K
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A good set of blades for a 600 sized heli are going to cost around $100. A lot of a difference than the $65 lipos and $15 blades the the 450 takes, huh?


Right on! Yeah crashes on any 600 / .50 sized choppers cost $$$, I'm gonna laugh the first time someone post what an average crash costs and acts shocked.

-= I know there is Money in RC helicopters. I put it there=-
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Grant H
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I said airworthy people. No, you dont NEED to do the mods, but you are taking a great chance if you dont.

Sooner or later both your swashes may come apart. Is that an unlikely possibility?

I perfer not to take that chance, seeing the trend that has been happening with peoples swashes coming apart in flight.

To me, reglueing the swash is a must. I dont care if its lasted 100 flights. Your 101, or 102 flight it could come apart.

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all of my stock rexes have flown great


Flown great compaired to what? What other a/c have you owned or flown that you can compair it ot?

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Looks like you might to check your building skills, because all of my stock rexes have flown great. LOL


My building skills have nothing to do with a swash coming apart in flight or sheading a tail rotor in flight as well. If I spend 100 hours and build it maticuasly, the swash could and will still fail. If I spent 30 minutes and slapped it together, the swash would still most likely fail. The bottom line is that the older swashes are doomed for failure. I would not call this an airworthy item.
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skew
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Everyone forgets that the raptor was no gem when released. I was there also whaa whaas,woof & poof, clutch shims (still not fixed to this day unless the titan has been revised) TT.36 (dud) os.32 borderling burning up not enough power. All I can say is Align sure is 100% better on aleast trying to make a fix instead of making us wait for years for a V2. Come on guys its not like align forgot everything they did in the last 2 years face it they went from vacum cleaners to #1 in micro helis in under 2 years. And it looks like they are pulling out no stops on the bigger helis now!
But hey go ahead and wait if you want that makes it a better chance for me to get one
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Hoverdown3K
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I'll wait for the V2 release next year!

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Gazzer
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Honestly I can't believe the blind loyalty that seems to surround Align on this forum. Guys, the Trex 450 heli's quality was pretty awful in the beginning, through subesquent revisions I would say they did improve but even the latest SE is nothing more than average. The amount of slop, especially in the tail, is really crap. The quality is not in the same league as Hirobo, JR, TT. I think you will be in for a few shocks when the various new heli's hit the shops and you can really compare them side to side. To the guys that are saying "I'm going to buy one" without even having seen one or compared it with the competition.......... I think your nuts!

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would hope that the Szabos have been in the heli scene for long enough that they would have enough respect for the industry and themselves to refrain from putting their name, or seal of approval on anything that wasn't truly up to par. Who knows, but I'd rather assume that than think that the Szabos sold out.



Of course they have sold out..... all factory pilots have sold out! They must support the brand, end of story! You think they only fly Align in their own time? You think they don't see other heli's on the market and think s**t..... that looks great wish I could fly that?
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Grant H
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I can't believe the blind loyalty that seems to surround Align on this forum.


I completely agree..

The 450 was great becuase it was cheap, it flew and it is so damn convenient. The quality is nothing to write home about, but it was fun.

Align came out with a cheap helicopter that blew the doors off of the Shogun and thats exactly what people were looking for in size and in price.

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Raptors were the "best" ...what happens now that "the best" are flying something else


Nothing happens, unless you are a stupid and will blindly follow around PAID reps.

You really need to do some research before you post. When were Rapters EVER the "best".But, what they were was a decent heli that brought a lot of people into this hobby for a very fair price. Look at all of the Raptor vs Evo threads. Who always wins?
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DIM
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Hey guys i cant rely see the reason of this.
Althow i am not writing very often here in RR i do read alot and i get so much help from all of you guys and these post realy making me ungry.
Everyone has his own reason to fly whatever he likes and a forum like this is here to help ,discuss issues and shere ideas.
I fly 5 years helis and i own and fly almost everything, nitro and electric and i have been through almost every brand.Everything has its pros and cons and i think there will never be a perfect heli or something.I love my 2 trexes until i crush them from every failure you might think(tail,pinion,servo gear etc)then i hate them and i go buck to my scheadu and i say there is no comparison until the day that my hyper refuses to cooperate and i say enough of the nitro stuff,and buck again to my rexes rebuild and flown and love them again and crash them and saying enough with all the crap only F3C from now on and training with my EX2 until one ore two engine failures and horifying emergiency autos lets say from a vert climb to a rolling stall turn and thinking of some thousant $$$ i just saved the rexes are just fine.
My point is that this hobby is an adiction and we will never be satisfied with only one heli or one brand or one type of flying,so let everyone fly everything he likes and tell his story.
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Gazzer
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DIM - Not sure of your point.... we should not discuss the pro's and con's of different Heli manufacturers?
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revomix
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I'd have to agree with Gazzer. The fist gen. t rex was a pile. as for the 600 the battery placement tray to say the least is lacking.
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First my off topic

What I find funny is that anyone would push it this hard to try to prove why one heli is better or worse due to a company's track record, especially for one's that have never been in the E heli market yet. It's all assumption and we all know what assuming will get you!! Here's where it gets interesting people talk about the the Align failures.. How many failures have been simply because of lack of knowledge on the part of the consumer as well? I know the original helis were crap but that is so far gone into yesterday that its no longer relevant, heck those crap helis were ground breaking. How can one assume that Hirobos or TT's first crack at a Eheli will be any better than anyone elses? Here is the only fact about Hirobo E helis; They will have awesome Tech and Customer Support. End of story.

By the way anyone commenting about throwing tails off of a Trex.. Since you all are so engineering minded.. You take the weight of the item, spin it around at 15k+ rpm ensure that there is no way for that RPM to be constant, induce heavy side loads, and introduce that no one will do any preventative maintenance on said object, also note that almost no one will balance them first, and figure out how to make it that small and strong enough to deal with those stresses.. I implore you to do so lol if you get it right you will be rich, but I will bet you don't get it right the first time because there are literally thousands of customers out there that will break it in a way you didn't think of or tap it on the ground then blame your shoddy work for the failure

The Hirobo crowd calling the align swashplate crap.. Yupp it was, they fixed it, I guess you all forgot about your one ways? It seems Hirobo had to fix them too, and a few other things as well, how bout that head on the new EVO? The only indisputable fact of Hirobo is Jeff, everything else can be disputed simply by personal preference. I personally think Hirobo's are ugly, they fly nice but are ugly to me.. The same reason we may pick a heli or a wife lol.. Most men did not talk to their GF or wife the first time because they heard that when she starts to cry there is a phone number you can call to get things fixed lol..

So what is real
the TT eRaptor will be attractive to some
the Hirobo Lepton will be attractive to some
The Align 600 will be attractive to some
any other heli will be attractive to some

Those of you that think you can change the mind of the other because you shout louder or spew more off topic post material are full of Pucky..

Align has the upper hand they are very experienced in the E heli market. Hirobo has a strong past with customer support and quality. TT will flood the market with parts, we all need them right? My call is the engineering problems to overcome on E heli will get smaller with the heli getting larger. The problem has and will be with size for Align, I do not expect for their parts to be failing as much as originally due simply to this fact. Hirobo and TT will have to overcome being the new kids on the block with E helis. You can bet your paycheck that there will be more bling and more upgrades "immediately" available for the align products.. Upgrades aren't always done out of necessity they are mostly done out of want. Our need to be beyond what we have and are.

Tongli grow up name calling was left in grade school.. Some of your points are valid but they get blown straight into the crapper by your end of post remarks.


Back on topic
No I will not be getting a 600
See guys all of the arguing and name calling and BS could have been avoided by simply staying on topic.

Just my .02
Rick

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pauchelle
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As far as of now... Im not buying the Trex600.

I rather buy a Japanese Made Hirobo Lepton. which I already pre ordered by the way.

As far as Trex600 and Szabo brothers.

On their Demo Flight of their trex600.

Are they flying it with the CF stock kits? with 6S lipos?

With all those hard 3D and hard throtle, pitch, climb rate ETC...

If they are using the Stock CF kit version with no upgrade and with 6S.

Then... I guess it looks good.
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Are they flying it with the CF stock kits? with 6S lipos?


As far as I know, yes they are flying with the stock CF kits.

They are not flying the 6S packs. The 6S packs are really only good for hovering around and some light flying. Anything more than that and you smoke the pack.
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no

don't see one in my near future.

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