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How much do One man Helis Cost?

Chickenx10

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Ft Drum NY

Hi, i was just curious as to how much a reliable one man helicopter costs

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05-25-2006 04:23 PM
Hoverdown3K

Key Veteran

Rochester, New York

you can see here!

http://www.planetrader.com/

-= I know there is Money in RC helicopters. I put it there=-

05-25-2006 04:54 PM
Pooch

Heliman

Scotland

reliable one man helicopter
Isn't that an oxymoron?

05-25-2006 05:13 PM
spaceman spiff

Key Veteran

Tucson

Not quite the same as a heli, but tons of fun for cheap.

http://www.sportcopter.com/lightning.php

05-25-2006 05:26 PM
flipped2left

Key Veteran

indianapolis,in.

AHH that reminds me! i have an almost reliable ultralight stored up north i danged near forgot about! thats where all that duct tape came from!!

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

05-25-2006 10:37 PM
ShuttleJock

Heliman

Norman, Oklahoma

Buy a Gun! it's Quicker and your widow will have enough money left for a decent funeral.

Seriously, these one man helis have an awful safety record. They have very little rotor inertia. Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable strapping my butt in a bunch of parts that some guy scrounged at the local Auto Zone. EXPERIMENTAL is stamped on the side of the cabin for a reason. It means "It might work."

I've seen too many fatal accidents in these machines. The Mini 500 was really popular in the 90s, mainly because it was cheap. It's track record speaks for itself.

If you can afford it, buy a Swietzer 300CB. Have a mechanic that is also a pilot do a pre buy inspection. He should fly it as well as look at the nuts and bolts and logbooks. Then have it maintained by someone that has the backbone to stand up to you when you tell him "I can't afford to fix it, can you sign it off? I'll fix it later."

The truth of the matter is flying is not cheap. There are cheap flying machines out there. But death comes with the sales contract. It is not a matter of if. It is a matter of when.

If you can't afford to own a heli, $350 bucks an hour for a R-22 or Hughes 300 starts looking pretty attractive. You can't keep it in your garage, but that is what the R/C helis are for.

Good luck, Live Long and Prosper.

05-26-2006 02:01 AM
Pooch

Heliman

Scotland

Buy a Gun! it's Quicker and your widow will have enough money left for a decent funeral.
ROFLMAO

05-26-2006 02:36 AM
A. Bundy

Elite Veteran

Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago


These work for short hops.

05-26-2006 02:54 AM
Leif

Elite Veteran

Oxford, PA - USA

It's not a "one man" heli, but the Rotorway Executive is one of the most reliable kit-build helis out there with one of the longest track records in the business. The engine is a fadec-controlled aircraft engine designed specifically for this helicopter, with an option for an altitude-compenstation pre-heat/pressurized air inlet.

http://www.rotorway.com

The kit goes for about $65K, which you pay in multiple installments as you build the machine. While significantly more expensive than an ultralight airplane, this is still dirt cheap for a rotory wing aircraft.

The jump to commercial helicopters brings the price tag to the low millions of dollars.

One nice thing about the Rotorway is that NTSB have kept reasonably complete crash statistics on these machines, even though they are kit-built and don't officially fall into the general aviation category. The record is surprisingly good considering that the helis are mostly built and flown by amateurs.

Leif

05-26-2006 03:25 AM
foo

Veteran

Richfield, Minnesota

Get a mini 500 with the rotax engine, i heard those are pretty good.

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05-26-2006 09:22 AM
Leif

Elite Veteran

Oxford, PA - USA

Get a mini 500 with the rotax engine, i heard those are pretty good
Then you heard WRONG! Many good pilots have died in that death trap. I don't know where you get your data because the Mini 500 saga has been going on for years.

Leif

05-26-2006 11:38 AM
Hoverdown3K

Key Veteran

Rochester, New York

I thought they fixed most issues with the mini500, most reports of crashes are old.

-= I know there is Money in RC helicopters. I put it there=-

05-26-2006 01:42 PM
albatross

Senior Heliman

Texas, Houston area

They offer very little have very little rotor inertia. Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable strapping my butt in a bunch of parts that some guy scrounged at the local Auto Zone. EXPERIMENTAL is stamped on the side of the cabin for a reason. It means, "It might work."
The word EXPERIMENTAL is for any aircraft that has not gone through the long and expensive FAA certification process. There are other classes as well but we will just stick with this one.

An experimental can be a factory built that has had modifications, which don't meet the certification certificate for that type of aircraft anymore. An example would be you want electronic ignition instead of magnetos on your Cessna 172.

Most of general aviation aircraft being manufactured today are EXPERIMENTALS. The reason being is all of the lawsuits of A/C manufacture being sued to extinction. One of the few things that Clinton did right was sign the general aviation reform bill.

Some noteworthy EXPERIMENTALS would be most of Burt Rutans fleet including SpaceShip One, which won the Ansari X Prize. The Wright flyer was certainly an experimental.

To answer your question the only single place full-scale helicopters that you don't have to build from scratch are. http://www.helicycle.com or http://www.innovatortech.ca

A good website for homebuilt rotorcraft is http://www.pra.org

Hope this helps and if you do decide to buy a really cool toy; post it here so we can all drool. LOL

05-26-2006 02:46 PM
ShuttleJock

Heliman

Norman, Oklahoma

The jump to commercial helicopters brings the price tag to the low millions of dollars.
Nah, you can pick up a Good Hughes 300 or R-22 in the $160K Range. You can also lease or rent out the heli which you CANNOT do with an experimental. These aircraft have been flight tested and have a Type Certificate and operate on Approved data.

You aren't gonna get in the the million dollar range until you start getting into turbines that are new or close to new.

You can still get a Clean Bell 206 in the half mil range. If you have the contacts and the business sense, you can lease it out and cover the payments on it, mainenence, inspections etc. Put a provision in the lease agreement that allows you to schedule it when it is not being used then go fly.

Go to your local airport FBO and pick up a copy of AERO TRADER / CHOPPER SHOPPER they are usually free and great to dream and wish about.

http://www.aerotraderonline.com/ads...rchprocess.html
The word EXPERIMENTAL is for any aircraft that has not gone through the long and expensive FAA certification process. There are other classes as well but we will just stick with this one.
A special airworthiness certificate in the experimental category is issued to operate an aircraft that does not have a type certificate or does not conform to its type certificate and is in a condition for safe operation. Additionally, this certificate is issued to operate a primary category kit-built aircraft that was assembled without the supervision and quality control of the production certificate holder.
Some noteworthy EXPERIMENTALS would be most of Burt Rutans fleet including SpaceShip One, which won the Ansari X Prize. The Wright flyer was certainly an experimental.
I agree an amazing accomplishment, but I ain't strapping my butt in that one either!

Dick Rutan said himself that the Voyager was one of the most dangerous aircraft that he ever flew. Remember the winglets getting ground off on takeoff for the round the world attempt? I've seen a couple of GA aircraft do that but they never got airborne. By the same token I flew one experimental that I felt safe in and that was the Christen Eagle II. I knew the builder and his capabilities his workmanship was awesome the airplane performed terrificly.

Alby, I'm just a big chicken. I try to stack the deck in my favor as much as humanly possible. Flying a 172 with an electronic ignition STC not a problem. But the some of the goofy stuff out there (Like the Mini 500) will get you from point A to a point "dead right there". The point I wanted to make is do the research before you let excitement take the place of cold reality. Guys see that they can realize the dream of owning an aircraft becase they are so cheap. If I can add a few more years to Chicken's life, I've done my job. Let him get a few years under his belt in type certificated aircraft and see what is out there in industry. He can then arm himself with the knowlege and skills that he needs before he decides to get into experimental aircraft. You don't take an empty revolver to a gun fight.

05-27-2006 06:12 AM
bagobitz

Veteran

saddleworth,lancs,UK

ERRRRH...this IS chicken 5h1t's post we're talking about

" Wife" "income" etc. are superfluous....a more meaningful contribution:-
Yes, Chicken, you can leave big ones out in the rain.
No, chicken, you can't superglue the cracked blades together.
No, chicken, you can't learn to fly one in your backyard
No, chicken nuts and bolts from the hardware store aren't OK.
yes, chicken, you can use your pocket money for Heli magazines
yes ,chicken, you have to listen to, and obey instructors.
I guess this is as much as he needs to know at the moment.
as he develops, he'll learn about Google and won't need to post questions on the bleeding obvious.

05-27-2006 11:46 AM
foo

Veteran

Richfield, Minnesota

LMFAO and yes, i was kidding about the mini500, lol.

Raptor 30 v2 / OS .32 / JR 8103 / GY-401+9253 | Raptor 50 V2 / OS .50 Hyper

05-27-2006 06:43 PM
Stet

Elite Veteran

Key Largo FL

My buddy recently bought a mini 500. I seriously fear for him, and told him never to fly it. "You read the reports, right?" I asked, which he dismissed quickly. Maybe when he asks me over to look at it, I will go "temporarily insane" and throw a quart of gasoline in it and set it alight. His wife can thank me later (or maybe she wont LOL).

Like my other buddy who never rode a bike, then says "come check out my new bike" (new crotch rocket). He's a KGB consumer, and got T-boned right down the street and is now on disability. At least he is alive and did not get a spinal injury. I don't think the odds are nearly that good for Mini 500 pilots.

keepin' it real

05-27-2006 06:55 PM
spaceman spiff

Key Veteran

Tucson

Gyrobee. Simple, reliable. Popular model and still has the distinction of never killing anyone. (only a matter of time of course) ~12,000$


05-27-2006 08:45 PM
foo

Veteran

Richfield, Minnesota

Thats a gyro coptor, the rotor isnt driven but rather spins with the wind, kinda like its always autorotating.

Raptor 30 v2 / OS .32 / JR 8103 / GY-401+9253 | Raptor 50 V2 / OS .50 Hyper

05-28-2006 04:28 AM
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