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Swashplate leveling tool?

GScott

Elite Veteran

Lewis Center, OH

I'm not the best at "eyeballing" a level swash and would like to find a nice setup tool. One of the recent heli mags had a picture of one that used 2 bubble levels but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Anyone know of any tools that would work?

01-23-2006 Over year old.
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Grant H

Key Veteran

Madison, WI

I bet that this is what you are looking for.

http://tiny url.com/bvf2g

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Magnumeng

Veteran

Stuttgart, DE

Figure out where your swash plate sits at mid stick and measure it. Then find a piece of metal that is as close to that thickness. Cut a slot big enough to allow it to slide over your main shaft. Then rest your swash plate down on to it. Center servos, and adjust your control rods.

TDR, Kontronik Kosmik Cool 200, Kontronik 750-56, CGY750

01-23-2006 Over year old.
GScott

Elite Veteran

Lewis Center, OH

Thanks Grant. That's the one. I'm not familiar with that vendor. Are they reliable?

01-23-2006 Over year old.
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Grant H

Key Veteran

Madison, WI

Ohh..

They are reliable but the customer service sucks. DO a search for Irwin or Quick World Wide on here.

You will get your leveling tool if that is what you are getting at.. They are not Helihobby..

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Lorents

Elite Veteran

Oslo, Norway

Hi,

I use this one:

http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/a...K&S1117.jpg

It has a small magnet on it and attaches itself to the main mast - then you just align the swashplate to it. Easy and hassle free...

It is made by K&S and have part # K&S1117



What comes around goes around.

01-23-2006 Over year old.
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JKos

rrProfessor

Redondo Beach, CA

Here's how I do it...

Spin the main shaft around to check the reading at each control point.

- John

RR rules!

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Helipilot01

Senior Heliman

ColliervilleTn

The one seen recently in the magazine was the one available from Rick's and MTA Hobbies. It does many things as well as set's the swashplate level. It also allows you to measure CCPM interaction and and cyclic to cyclic interaction,set the tail rotor gear box 90 deg to the main shaft and engine to clutch alignment.

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Grant H

Key Veteran

Madison, WI

Or you could try something like this. I have used it and they work..

http://tiny url.com/8yo73

01-23-2006 Over year old.
str8den

Veteran

NE U.K

The tool that Grant H refers to appears totally useless to me; unless ur heli sits dead-straight on its skids, and the table/workbench is level, and that depends on if the floor is..............etc

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Helipilot01

Senior Heliman

ColliervilleTn

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me...Screen=PROD&;Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=FMPUHST

Here is the link to the pic of the tool I was refering to.

01-23-2006 Over year old.
bald eagle

Veteran

detroit michigan

HEY JKOS YOU WAY DOSE NOT LEVEL A SWASH PLATE ONLY IN ONE SPOT

JEFF

01-23-2006 Over year old.
bald eagle

Veteran

detroit michigan

sorry did not mean to yell

jeff

01-23-2006 Over year old.
bald eagle

Veteran

detroit michigan

the tool that grant shows is the best tool to level a swash plate it is very good and using this tool you can see if there is any interaction when giging a collective command

jeff

01-23-2006 Over year old.
JKos

rrProfessor

Redondo Beach, CA

Jeff,
> HEY JKOS YOU WAY DOSE NOT LEVEL A SWASH PLATE ONLY
> IN ONE SPOT

Did you not see my note that you turn the main shaft and take readings at the control points? I do this first at zero degrees collective then full positive and full negative. Then I check at various places between those.

I have used this method on about 5 machines now and it works wonderfully. I go for level to within one-thousandth at all levels. I also have bubble levels that I use to watch how the swash behaves during movements (dynamic versus static level).

- John

RR rules!

01-23-2006 Over year old.
bald eagle

Veteran

detroit michigan

i am sorry i did not see the dial mounted on the main shaft but now you have to be assured that the machined edge is straight and some are not i have found two on a hirobo and a jr vigor thats whay i started to use the other method with the bubble level.

i know i am splitting hairs but i fai fly and i want it dead on

thanks jeff and sorry again for not seeing the dial on the shaft

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Grant H

Key Veteran

Madison, WI

Johns method here looks like a winner. You get perfect swash leveling at multiple points on the collective.

With the one tool listed above from me, you would only get a level swash at 0 degrees.

John, Where can I buy one of those dial indicators? would I be needing antyhing special to do what you do, IE. attach it to the main shaft?
The tool that Grant H refers to appears totally useless to me; unless ur heli sits dead-straight on its skids, and the table/workbench is level, and that depends on if the floor is
I have been thinking this comment (about it, not actually your comment) for a while now. Do I want a swash that I level with the ground, or do I want one that is level with the a/c. Personally, I want one that is level and "on" with the heli itsself. . Maybe someone can explain to me why I should be leveling rather than using this tool????

01-23-2006 Over year old.
JKos

rrProfessor

Redondo Beach, CA

> but now you have to be assured that the machined edge is straight

I am not depending on any machined edges. Look at where the end of the dial indicator is resting... On a ball of the inner swash ring. The dial indicator remains on that ball as you turn the unit. If that ball is level all the way around, then so will the others be.

> i know i am splitting hairs but i fai fly and i want it dead on

I guarantee the other tools shown on the this thread thus far are less accurate. What drove me to this method is ordering the MA swash leveling tool only to find that it wasn't even close to perpendicular to the main shaft and quite useless in my opinion.

> John, Where can I buy one of those dial indicators? would I be
> needing antyhing special to do what you do, IE. attach it to the
> main shaft?

Both the dial indicator and the mount came from Harbor Freight. The mount is part of the magnetic base setup which just happens to have a 10 mm shaft.

> Maybe someone can explain to me why I should be leveling rather
> than using this tool????

What you really want is perpendicular to the main shaft. "Leveling" isn't really the correct word.

- John

RR rules!

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Grant H

Key Veteran

Madison, WI

What you really want is perpendicular to the main shaft.
Thats kinda what I have been thinking and the tool that I have listed above does exactly that..

With that being said, why would anyone want to bubble level their swash?

01-23-2006 Over year old.
Helipilot01

Senior Heliman

ColliervilleTn

I posted pic's in my gallery of this tool. The instructions tell you how to make adjustments to the heli to insure the swashplate is level 360 deg on the bench and how to adj the heli at the field to keep the for/aft cyclic level. The left/right will always have an offset of trim due to the TR thrust.

01-24-2006 Over year old.
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