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hdavidson
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Location: Atlanta, Ga. - USA

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Hi –

I am looking to purchase a micro heli that can be flown indoors as well as outdoors in light wind. I am an inexperienced flyer. Ideally the heli would be fairly simple to fly and setup. I was considering the Hornet II or the Hornet X FP. Can you assist me with this decision and help me understand why I should go one way or the other.

If you recommend I look at something else entirely, let me know that too.

Thanks!
01-17-2006 Over year old.
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ADRYAN
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Location: Stouffville, Ontario, Canada

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Try the Trex or MX400... will take you from beginner to 3D. Cost-wise, it would cost the same across the board, be it Hornet or Trex. See what other fliers are flying around you and check out the local hobby shop and find out which parts they carry. I have a CP and love it but I don't have the proper parts-support in my area. Another option, if you don't have any other equipment, would be to go RTF like the Blade CP or CX... it'll be just a taste and not even comparable to the Hornet, MX400 or TRex. Good luck.

PS if you were going to go with the Hornet, CCPM would be more ideal. Collective Pitch helis will teach you more than the FP.
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

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Notice we tend to steer newbies away from the Hornets. You can browse through this forum and see that Hornets are very finicky and are best suited for those who like to tinker and spend lots of money to have the best flying micro heli.

I don't know if the new fixed pitch Hornets are less finicky than the rest of the Hornets or not.

Many poeple have different levels of interest in helis and micro helis. Some of us like to tinker and like knowing how helis work and how to program radios to fly them and all the nitty gritty from the get-go, while others just want the easiest/cheapest entry so they can test the waters to see if helis are really for them and progress from there.

I generally recommend the cheap/easy route and later decide where you want to go from there. The E-Flight Blade is $219 and is ready-to-fly with a radio. Very minimal setup, likely just charge the batteries and go fly. I believe they even test fly each of them before packaging to make sure they are setup and fly correctly. These aren't the best aerobatic performers, but a newb doesn't need it to be anyways. But it does fly decently well and can be mildly upgraded to perform aerobatics and the price is right.

In between the Blade and the Hornet is the T-rex and MX400. These are slightly larger helis and fall into the "mini heli" class. You will have to seperately buy/install/setup all the components yourself like you would for the Hornet, you will learn a great deal about helis and radio programming, and it should fly easier and/or more stable than both the Blade and Hornet. It's price will likely be equal to or less than a stock Hornet and same with it's aerobatic performance.

Blade = Cheap easy entry.

T-rex/MX400 = All around good helis that will take you as far as you want to go. I suppose they need space though.

Hornet = Eccentric tinkerer's heli. Finicky but gratifying for those with patience and meticulousness. Basically we like to tinker with our helis as much as, or more than, we like to fly them.

It's been a long time since I owned a fixed pitch heli and so I'm out of date and out of the loop there. The fixed pitch I did own flew horribly outdoors.
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DarkHorse1
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Location: Gloucester UK

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Indoor heli, inexperienced, outdoors in light wind...
Got to say an FP would suit you best. Start with a cheap deal and modify to death to suit your needs.

Look at 11.1v 3x cell lipo ready FP's like PiccoloV2, TwisterV2, HummingBirdV3(?).
They are fine for hovering round the house and fly well outdoors if you change the blades and gear for higher head speeds.
Simplest to fly and fix, crashable and quite robust. Hornets are more fiddly. All good CPs have high energy rotor systems that will destroy themselves in a flash, no good indoors. May get away with a softer CP like the 'Blade CP' (low head speed I believe).

Check out my site for a modified micro FP in action videos.
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hdavidson
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Location: Atlanta, Ga. - USA

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what makes the Hornet more complex to setup than the Piccolo or HummingBird etc?
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ADRYAN
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Location: Stouffville, Ontario, Canada

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Tail is driven by the main gear.

DYNAX/OS91 : 9303/S649pcm : GY601/9251 : CSMRL10/9253 : 7.4vLipo/Regulator : KO2123s(ai/el/pi)
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helimeister
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Location: Torrance, CA-USA

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If you are a beginner, stay away from Hornets, unless you are a sadomaschist. If not perfectly setup, the thing will never fly. I learned it the hard way.
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