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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Theres now an X3D for Reflex on rc-sim.

I've been using it's original par and a t-rex par with it.
01-11-2006 Over year old.
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I've done some minor tweaking on this X3D PAR file and think I've got it a little more realistic than the original - So I thought I'd share it with you all -
See what you think of it -

Hornet_X3D_2.zip

Make sure that your getting +/-10° or so during the simulation - Adjust it if not.
 
01-16-2007 Over year old.
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Doh! - I forgot to actually save my latest changes before zipping it up so if anyone downloaded the file between the time of the above post and this post then please download and install it again - Sorry about that.

I blew a breaker and when I restarted my computer and XTR the model wasn't flying the way I tweaked it to and it dawned on me that I'd forgotten to save my changes before zipping and uploading it here -
01-16-2007 Over year old.
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DarkHorse1
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Location: Gloucester UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum

Wish I had XTR
01-17-2007 Over year old.
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robl45
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Location: Deerfield Beach, FL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi,

I just tried out this model. I'm looking for a small heli like this, but is this the best this thing can do? I can't see this thing doing tic tocs.
02-14-2007 Over year old.
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yeah I don't think it will do full on tic tocs like a Trex - These little 300 motors just don't have that kind of muscle -

Here's a collection of videos pretty well showing what a Hornet is capable of - http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t208270p1/
The Andy Rummer vid is about the hardest I've seen anyone fly a Hornet -
Eric Larson demonstrates tic tocs at about the 4:30 mark of the X3D vid -
Also Dennis Strein in the saturdayflyby vid.
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robl45
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Location: Deerfield Beach, FL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		That was pretty cool on the vids. Do you need the full on pro version of this x3d or does the plastic version work just as well? What types of blades does it use? Do the blade cp blades work? It seems to have plenty of power, worlds ahead of the mini zoom thing I'm trying to fly now.
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I found the stock parts to be a little bit loose and flexible but nothing serious - It flies very well stock and most of those vids are of stock Hornets -

Some people like the MS metal parts but I prefer Duzi metal parts - With a Duzi head you get a true feathering spindle whereas with the MS head the blade grips/bearings still ride bolts screwed into the head just like the plastic parts - I think the Duzi and MS metal parts are similarly priced -

I helped a guy awhile back that had the MS metal parts and the swash plate kept separating as the piece that holds the upper half in the bearing is thin plastic instead of metal like the Duzi swash plate -

As for blades I think most of us have been using high performance like KoK SAB and V-blades - I'm even using KoKs on my BCP - But the cheap BCP blade roots are fatter and don't fit the Hornet grips - The better more expensive blades perform a lot better on both machines IMO.
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DarkHorse1
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Location: Gloucester UK

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		The 'stock' recommended X-3D base kit with Eric Larson like electronics (370g, 10 to 15 mins economy) will sloppy tictoc mid pack as the video shows (better on fresh pack voltage). Which is not bad for a ~$99 stock kit.

Stretching for longer 28cm LAHeli CF blades (with lower disk loading) and/or going 4s gives that little extra for more solid power hungry moves (no video yet). Must keep the weight below 370g really or add a greedy motor (Axi 2212/12) for shorter flight times etc.
02-14-2007 Over year old.
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raptorapture
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Location: Vancouver, Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Thanks

Thanks for that Captain Chaos. Great little bird to fly. Might just get into electrics after trying that out!

Geoff.
02-18-2007 Over year old.
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robl45
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Location: Deerfield Beach, FL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		is anyone having a problem with this model, everytime I fly it, it starts wobbling and crashes, almost like I'm assuming I'm getting a boom strike or something. the boom just starts wobbling up and down.
02-25-2007 Over year old.
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yeah it happens once in a great while for me too but not often and not severe - I used to know what to tweak to fix it but now I've forgotten - There is a fix though - Rotor head stiffness or dampening or something along that line - I had a Piccolo model that did it really bad.
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robl45
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Location: Deerfield Beach, FL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		This does it every time I fly, if anyone knows how to fix it, please let me know.

So the real thing really flips and rolls like this model? I like!!!
02-25-2007 Over year old.
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husafreak
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Location: NorCal

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I saw in a magazine article by J. Wang to put Zap-A-Dap-A-Goo onthe bottom of the hub just below the O-rings. Make a little fillet. The Goo dries to a really hard rubbery piece but it is pretty easy to cut and peel away when you need to.
05-17-2007 Over year old.
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