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L0stS0ul
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Location: Virgina - USA

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Ron,

I'd love to know what your throttle and pitch curves are set at for normal and idle up for the stock motor one you have.

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catfight
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Ron,

I downloaded the Rotory Mag (Spet/Oct 2005) and read your article- excellent work! Excellent job of hiding the DX6 stuff :0) Do all of the controls and menu items translate directly from the tx in your article to the DX6?

Thanks!

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oneslim
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Location: Pittsgrove, NJ

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Ron,

Thanks, I had guessed that the 4 in 1 wasn't arming, so I've been giving it more time.

Sure would like your know Your swash settings on the AEK Blade, I have +41 on the ele sub trim, Seems like a lot. Yet, the swash is level from -9 to +9 pitch.

Thanks

Bob Wescott

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Ron_Osinski
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Location: Russellton, PA

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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the kind words.

Bob...I usually change out servo horns that require more than 20 or so on a sub trim. The smaller servos, like the S75's, can be a little difficult to get it perfect due to the spline and horn fit. Sometimes 20 or slighty higher is the best you can get. BUT I agree 40 or so is a lot. Try swapping the horns from the 3 servos you have. You'd be surprised how 1 horn on a different servo may get you under a value of 12 vs. another. Some are even perfect and require no sub trim. Just takes some fiddeling around. I'll double check mine tonight and let you know what sub trims settings my 2 BCP's have.

Catfight...different model TX's usually have slightly different values. The 6102 TX I used had different setting that what my DX6 has now. Again I will double check my DX6 values and put post them. Glad you liked the article. At times the hardest part is keeping things under raps per say. New stuff is always exciting to try and test out. I like to show this stuff off...I'm a modeler at heart and I know if I'm jazzed about a product that most will be too!

LostSoul...in both my BCP's I have full throttle as the ID setting. No curve. Just in normal to spool it up. Once all equalizes and loads I flip to wide open. Especially with the lower powered brushed AEK motor. Nothing wrong with it but since power is just so much...wide open helps. I also run wide open on my E-Flite brushless motor'ed BCP too. Pitch ranges are linear on both helis and I just fly the head with wide open power. ESC runs cooler as does the motor. Of course this takes into consideration that you have the brushless motor set up with the correct gear too. 4100 KV motor on 3S needs the 8 tooth pinion. Stock AEK motor needs 9 tooth pinion...it comes with that when you buy the AEK, to run on 3S. Box stock motor has 10 tooth on it and is not designed to run on 3S LI-PO's.

Thanks for the interest...

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Ron Osinski
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catfight
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Location: USA

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Ron,
I received my DX6 and have it mounted, connected, and the cyclic configured (haven't connected main motor yet). While trying to setup the tr I cannot get it to arm (red/green flash on 4in1) and have tried reversing and real negative throttle trim. I am sure I have it wired correctly - any ideas? Read your article and posts but still no tail power.

Posting your settings would be greatly appreciated :0) Especially for BL in my case (using Green Meenie 3600kv and CC-25)

Thanks,
catfight

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catfight
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Anybody know what the orange LED indicates on the rx - I assume AOK? Can't find reference in the book anywhere.

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jhelfire
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Location: Springfield, Il

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Orange Light

Catfight,
I have the same indication on my DX6 Rcvd. I assumed that it is the same as a power on light. Jerry

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catfight
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jhelfire,

Jerry, do you have your tr setup and operational? I can;t figure this part out - any suggestions?

Thanks

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jcrack_corn
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Riverman, I'M FLATTERED!

The fact is, I published this hack FIRST anywhere (2 months before that magazine article) AND my goal was not electronics mod, it was to prove that the 2in1 was a waste for people wanted to just fly their own rx....i'm sure HOrizon did not like that too much.

Anyway.....when i started that thread "groundbreaking research" the fact that you can use any rx was unheard of, and now it is such a commonly known thing that it is not even considered a hack anymore..that is truly the best compliment I could ever recieve!

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catfight
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Is it possible that I need to use a y cable to run this brushless? I only have the rudder cable from the rx to the 4in1 because the main rotors are on a CC25 ESC. Everything but the tr works.

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Gary Hoorn
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Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

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catfight,
Without a throttle signal the 4 in 1 will never arm. Check the LED status.
Gary

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catfight
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Thanks Gary,

Do I need to use a y cable or can you just connect the throttle S+ pin to either gound or battery? I don't know if the throttle requires a pulse or whether it will activate using gorund or battery.

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Gary Hoorn
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The 4 in 1 requires a proper throttle signal in order to arm. It will not arm if it does not see a zero signal for a period of time. Also the tail motor gets some of its voltage signals from the throttle channel. If in doubt unplug the main motor, arm the Heli and hold full right rudder while running the throttle up and down. You will hear the tail motor changing speed.
The 4 in 1 needs to have the throttle channel connected. Use a Y connector.
Gary

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catfight
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Gary,

y connector plugs from rx rudder out to both rudder and throttle on the 4in1 right?

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jhelfire
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Location: Springfield, Il

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DX6 Tx.

Catfight,
No, I have not tried to set up my DX6 radio. I'm still trying to learn to fly the CP with the original Tx. We have windy weather here in Ill during the winter months, and even though I got my CP before Christmas, I have not had a chance to fly in outside. Just been practicing small hovering flights in our VFW hall with 12 ft. ceilings. A little scary at times. Jerry

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Gary Hoorn
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catfight,
Y connector goes on the throttle channel, not the rudder channel.
If you are using the stock or a DD tail the rudder channel to the rudder plug on the 4 in 1. The 4 in 1 will not arm if it does not see a proper throttle channel.

Throttle channel to both the ESC for the brushless motor and to the 4 in 1.

Rudder channel to the 4 in 1 if you using stock or DD tail motor.

Gary

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catfight
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Gary,

Got it! Thanks - I had forgotten that there is a mixer component in that blasted 4in1 and it would need both inputs to mix - geeze I must be gettin old :0)

Thanks again.

jhelfire, why not spend the time setting up that DX6? It seems like the ideal time to do it when its too cold and windy (70 here today) to fly :0)

Good flyin'

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catfight
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oneslim,

In an earlier post you said "Ron used 78% Ail, 74% Elv, and 28% Pit. I couldn't keep it in the air, was all over the place. I've changed the Pit to 43%, its a little better. Evo 10% Ail and Elv. D/R 90%.".

I finally got main and tr thrust setups correct. But in the above quote the Evo 10% Ail and Elv. D/R 90% - what does that mean?- where are these on the data sheet form?

My Blade is strange at this point - apply throttle and headspeed comes up - then about 1/2 throttle it "jumps" into the air- way too fast. Any ideas?

THanks

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jhelfire
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Location: Springfield, Il

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Catfight, DX6 will wait

Catfight,
You're probably right about me setting up my DX6 now. Just thought I'd learn to fly the CP with the original Tx first. Once I decide to mess with the DX I know who to ask about the settings. Good Luck. Jerry By the way, thanks for the weather update.

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oneslim
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Location: Pittsgrove, NJ

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Catfight,

I'm new at this Tx programing Too. I think Ron's setup is for doing hot 3D.

In the functions section scroll to the D/R ELO, I set it to 90%. Change channel and set D/R AIO to 90%, This limits the servo throws. So one doesn't cause over controling.

Scroll to the next screen it should be EXP ELO I set this to 10%, change channel to EXP AIO, set to 10%. This softens the sticks around center. Servos movement is less around center. Some say that if You fly thumbs the EVO should be 30%. I find I have less control with 30%.

I've got to learn Finger and Thumb.

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