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Thunder Tiger Raptors 30-90 - Imperio > E RAPTOR COMING FROM TT?
 
 
papamac
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does anyone have any info or links for info about the E RAPTOR that is coming from thunder tiger?

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papamac
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anyone?

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papamac
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i don't know, i just read a little blurb in that new r/c heli mag

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andres.c
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where is the picture ?
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andres.c
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i guess will have to settle for the e600 from real raptors guys for now which is great $$

there was someone that made an insert to install the electric motor


but maybe soem one out there can share that link


the battery prices are the problem they are too high maybe next year theyll drop a bit
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andres.c
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it will probably look like this one
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andres.c
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it available for price 165 but it seems they are out of stock
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or something like this

from chuckhager's gallery





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papamac
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i'd like to see a complete build thread on that, VERY NICE!!

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Or maybe he will talk about how much better the ccpm upgrade is and how much smoother digital servos are while flying a co-pilot.

I am sorry, but it needed to be said.
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chuckhager
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Actually this eRaptor flew very well. This particular CCPM mod is one of the best on the market because the servos are mounted with perfect symmetry. I know many users have experienced interactions with CCPM but the problems I've seen were due to improper setup and adjustments.

The co-pilot works perfectly with this setup. And it's turned off most of the time when flying. I use it as a bail out on a switch. And no glitching. (Rare when you have this combination, but I got lucky. I am fighting a glitch problem with another eRapp conversion with a similar setup but with high voltage and using the "box".)

My eRapp pictured above is an older design. A little on the heavy side with a 7S4P setup but it does give me 20 minutes on a charge. It has good power, but you can see that it flys a little heavy from the video link below. This is an old video with Alan Jr. on the sticks back in 2004 before I bought it from Jason Merkle of Horizon Hobbies. I have also dressed it up a little cosmetically after I bought it from Jason. (low profile black skids, modified frame, wire wrap, etc.)

http://www.chuckhager.com/videos/eRaptor-2nd.wmv




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andres.c
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chuck

thanks for your reply in this tread

please if you dont mind can you break down the cost to convert a nitro r50
to your set up as seen above

or if you have pictures of the newer set up can you post them as well with break down in $$$


i am interested as many others are too to see the the final bill is

thanks
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chuckhager
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andres.c,

Here is a comprehensive cost breakdown of the eRapp50 posted above. I've even separated the cost of the heli to exclude the price of the co-pilot and lipos and then added them back into the total cost at the end. The list also includes links to the websites to verify the costs I've posted as of today's date. I know the parts could be purchased else ware for more or less, but this gives you an idea of price. It could be built cheaper if you left off the purple metal bling. And with the newer conversion kits available today the cost can be reduced even more. I'll be starting a new eRapp50 conversion as soon as Gary Goodrum over at tppacks.com has the new ORK conversions available. I'll post this new build project with pictures in a new thread for those that might be interested.

Thanks,

Chuck Hager


Chuck’s eRaptor 50 – Replacement price costs as of 12/03/2005

Raptor 50V2 - $409.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=101450

Electraflight.com CCPM conversion - $85.00
http://www.tppacks.com/products.asp?cat=15

Quick UK 120 degree CCPM swash plate - $73.97
http://www.quickuk.co.uk/acatalog/r_index.htm

Electraflight.com High mount electric conversion (NO LONGER ON THE WEBSITE) - $89.00
http://www.helihobby.com/html/raptor_heli.html

Raptor 60 Main Gear (Modified to fit R50 Auto Hub & Pulley) - $10.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=135215

Hacker C50-16XL motor - $285.00
http://www.icare-rc.com/hacker.htm

Hacker Master 48 amp OPTO heli ESC -$189.99
http://www.fxaeromodels.com/product...dad6b032773a01c

Mikado 8 tooth pinion - $12.49
http://www.helihobby.com/html/MIKADO11.html

JR 8311 digital servos on the CCPM (Qty. 3 at $89.99 each) - $269.97
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=154810

Futaba GY401 with digital 9253 servo combo - $189.19
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=169840

UBEC HV - $40.00
http://www.koolflightsystems.com/ultimatebec.htm

KSJ "yellow" 3D paddles - $6.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=102070

KSJ "yellow" tail blades - $6.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=102395

KSJ "yellow" skid stops - $11.49
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=121543

Low profile black skids - $12.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=803935

MrCarbon carbon boom supports w/purple ends - $21.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=155017

MrCarbon carbon tail pushrod w/purple ends - $21.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=150058

MrCarbon 3D carbon tail fins - $26.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=150030

DBC purple aluminum fin mount - $18.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=801729

DBC purple aluminum tail servo boom mount - $24.99
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=801815

Quick WW purple aluminum tail gearbox belt pulley - $8.99
http://www.ewtech.com/Merchant2/mer...ades_for_RAPTOR

Quick WW purple aluminum main frame belt pulleys - $18.99
http://www.ewtech.com/Merchant2/mer...ades_for_RAPTOR

Quick WW purple aluminum ball bearing washout - $24.99
http://www.ewtech.com/Merchant2/mer...ades_for_RAPTOR

Purple aluminum screws & locknuts - $44.99
http://custom-rc24419.viausa-hostin...rews_&_kits.htm

Mini antenna - $10.49
http://www4.mailordercentral.com/he...p?number=101565
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TOTAL COST FOR THE HELICOPTER - $1,895.46



TP8000 3S4P Lipos - $254.95
http://www.thunderpower-batteries.c.../batteries.html

TP8000 4S4P Lipos - $329.95
http://www.thunderpower-batteries.c.../batteries.html
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TOTAL COST WITH ONE SET OF LIPOS - $2,480.36



FMA Direct Co-Pilot with vertical sensor – No crystal - $174.95
http://www.fmadirect.com/detail.htm...1769§ion=29

Low profile dual conversion crystal - $9.95
http://www.fmadirect.com/detail.htm...1330§ion=50
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TOTAL COST INCLUDING THE CO-PILOT - $2,665.26


Hitech Eclipse 7 QPCM with Spectra module – No servos or receiver - $195.95
http://grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/216
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TOTAL COST INCLUDING TRANSMITTER - $2,861.21


The Thunder Power 8000 mAh LiPo packs have been modified to fit inside the frame. The heli flies on a 7S4P arrangement with one 3S4P pack and one 4S4P pack. Each 7S4P pack will deliver 15 minutes of aggressive 3D flying, or up to 20+ minutes of hovering and sport flying. I will usually fly two 8 minute flights per pack. Heads speed max in idle up is right around 2000 RPM.

Miscellaneous parts include: Ferrite bead, Deans Ultra connectors, silicone wiring, shrink wrap tubing, braided wire wrap, wire loom, zip ties, double stick foam tape and assorted sizes of Velcro. $ 40.00
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A. Bundy
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Great project,Chuck.
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Eury
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Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

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I had one that I did the same conversion on, same kit, conversion, motor, batteries, minus the bling. It flew great right up until a hard auto flexed the frames enough to bend the motor shaft on the nearly $300 motor. Sold the thing right after. For me, the economics of it were that for every set of packs I bought, I could have bought another glow raptor 50 that had better performance, cost less, and could be back in the air after a 4 minute refueling rather than a 1 hour charge. These Raptor conversions just don't make any sense to me. Maybe one day when the price of Lipos comes way down, until then, it's a cool novelty. The biggest thing I miss with mine was spooling it up. Man, it makes a cool sound when you spool it up.

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AirWolfRC
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Well . . . . if you're going to go that far . . . . what about a micro turbine conversion ?

185gm turbine at 243,000 rpm
http://www.lambert-modellturbinen.d...triebwerke.html
Second one on the page. Only needs a gear box.

Did you say you want spool-up sounds ?

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andres.c
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thanks chuck

that was great very detailed breakdown

a little too much

i guess i can start by converting my 50 to cppm like in your pics i have to wait for the kit to become available
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chuckhager
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andres.c and others that may be interested. It looks like Gary has some more CCPM conversion made up as well as his new eRapp conversion kits. http://www.tppacks.com/products.asp?cat=17
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jb_turner
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For that cost you can get a ION.
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andres.c
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you could do that and since i have yet to fly that heli i could not tell you how good or bad it flyies - what i do know is that when the raptors crashes the cost to get back up is much less than ION

my 2 cents


thanks chuck for the update will contact TP packs to see whats up with the kits



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