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Quick Worldwide
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Location: Coopersburg, PA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		JUST TIRED OF BEING PUTDOWN
To Friend & foe alike,
I was just looking on RunRyder & came across this thread. My name is Irwin & I think you guys really do not know anything about our produces or what me & my staff do to produce model helicopters & product line.

Right now I am in China for the past 2 weeks. You talk about Quick of Japan....well he still is making a 8 class EP That I designed 4 years ago...Look at our website we now have 4 state of the art EP helicopters with EXTREME performance. Next week we will be at the Jamboree & the entire market will see our products proformia, Including our new VIP 13-15 cell big EP.

Japan does not have a 60-90 class nitro. Why? We do & it is a great quality produce along with our 32-37 & 46 super Learner....here is the reason because it is now nearly 2 years that I ended a 12 relationship because I was tired of poor quality form Japan with deliveries 3-5 month late...Yes ask Iyobe if that is not the truth.

Do you think you can be successful with a partner that thinks that is timely delivery.....Then all you people are dreamers & now nothing about business.....yes I make helicopters for a living....Yes we have had some packing issues & it eats my heart every time that I hear about It. It is wrong & we seem to have a handle on it now. This has nothing to do about our quality or performance only poor packing...


If in the past we missed some parts WE ARE 100% to make sure those parts were sent out......We are trying & we KNOW after 20 years in the RC helicopter biz what is great quality....& we believe we have the best there is. however we also understand the kits need to be 100%

We are not making toys like all I read about on this EP forum. But high quality high performance machines.....I work 24/7 & travel 4-5 months a year to make it all possible & I am tired of you guys putting me & my staff down when you do not know jack **** about about what we do.

If it is was so easy you try to make a helicopter. Your lack of compassion for our efforts is easy for you guys who sit at you PC at work & try to destroy my business that I have spent the last 20 years busting my ass to build. Yes I love what I do. How many of you would like to make RC helicopters for a living?
Well I do & I am tired of you guys who watch the clock at work putting me down when you guys should be worrying about your own jobs....

My guys works 10 /20 hours per week overtime Sat & Sundays
because they believe in our products....Have some respect for them....if you have a bone to pick with me my email IRWIN@QUICK WORLDWIDE.COM I do not run from anything or anyone.

I want to ask all you critics why do so many flyers say our machines are great flying & great quality....we are one in the same company...Many of you detesters never even saw one of our helicopters yet you love to criticize. Just for the sake of send a post so you can move on to higher level on this website.

Well if you serious & we are a serious company with more experience in Nitro & EP than any company in the world. Take you hobby serious ask serious question not more rhetoric only hurting our company & our ability to sell great machines...your guys are the real losers....
For me I live better than 99.9% of the people that live on this earth & appreciate ever moment of my life & am sick of you guys killing us.
If I close my doors my life will not change I have enough supply of helicopters to fly for the rest of my life....

Well here is your chance again....I have 20 kits any model all at 40% of...if you build it & you think our products are JUNK I will close my business because I am then just pissing in the wind....

If you can be honest & are only out to hurt our company please just continue to fly you plastic junk & toys...Because you are not ready for us......

Sincerely Irwin Siner
Quickheli.com
08-04-2005 02:55 PM
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King Cobra
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Location: Virginia. USA.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Irwin,
Calm down, use the spell check and please edit some of your sentences, I 've learned this is the INTERNET and you never know who might be reading ! Do it QUICK.
I am been friendly.

C.T
08-04-2005 04:14 PM
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SolarXtreme
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Location: Arroyo Grande, CA

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If you can be honest & are only our to hurt our company please just continue to fly you plastic junk & toys...Because you are not ready for us.....


I have no opinion on QWW heli's as no one I know of owns one. However refering to plastic heli's as "junk" strikes a nerve.

Just cause a helicopter is made of plastic does not make it junk. Hirobo makes the finest flying helicopters in existance and all of them are made of plastic. I would put any of my Hirobo's against your QWW heli's anyday.

BTW you want to see a real metal heli someday check out a Kyosho Caliber.
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Avant EFX
Freya EVO
08-04-2005 05:35 PM
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littleman
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Location: state college pa home of Penn State

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		hey man designing a nice doormat takes alot of work, dont hate on the doormat designers
A.J.

Proud member of Teams CYE, Next-D,Power helis
Castle Creations, Rotor Rage & xero gear
08-10-2005 03:20 AM
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Foz
Senior Heliman
Location: USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		That's a new sales tactic, insulting your potential customers.
foz
08-10-2005 03:39 AM
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Billy Zimmerman
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Location: Rainier Oregon

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		LOL Littleman

Raptor 90 SE YS91,Tiger50 OS50 Hyper, Vblades, OS&YS engines, Hitec Eclipse7
08-10-2005 03:40 AM
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littleman
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Location: state college pa home of Penn State

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
billy your in high school didnt you have career day with the doormat man
A.J.

Proud member of Teams CYE, Next-D,Power helis
Castle Creations, Rotor Rage & xero gear
08-10-2005 03:43 AM
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patriot21
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Location: Eagle Lake,MN

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Gee,,, I am happy with my plastic rappy50
08-10-2005 04:23 AM
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steve9534
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Location: yakima, wa.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		HHI

I hate to see someone bleed. I don't know any details of others transactions, but I have generally gotten good service from Irwin, and when there was a problem he made it right. steve.
08-10-2005 05:55 AM
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Rogue123
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Location: Phoenix AZ

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Im never had a prob with Irwan. Pluse he is the only guy that sells SAB 600mm Night blades. He has been way nice everytime I have order from him. I will still buy from him.
08-10-2005 06:08 AM
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Billy Zimmerman
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Location: Rainier Oregon

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Littleman-
Oh yeah! Doormat people were right next to the folks taking sign ups to shoot chickens out of cannons at airplane windshields

Raptor 90 SE YS91,Tiger50 OS50 Hyper, Vblades, OS&YS engines, Hitec Eclipse7
08-10-2005 07:52 AM
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ShempHoward
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Location: San Francisco, Ca - too many beggars + bad drivers

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		A good example of that "famous" atitude has been displayed here. Insulting your potential internet customers doesn't seem like a good idea. Too many can see what you've written here unlike when you insult people over the phone or while in your shop.
08-10-2005 09:49 AM
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nipps85
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Location: gurnee illinois

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		That has to be the most unprofessional thing I've ever heard from a manufacturer. I hope that for his sake, he edits or deletes this as quickly as possible.
08-10-2005 06:49 PM
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rkeith2
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Location: Norco, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Email etiquette

One of those times where you hit post before reading it again -

Sometimes Irwin; it's a good business idea to write like you have no cares and and get it all out of your system.

Then delete it.


08-10-2005 06:59 PM
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spaceman spiff
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Location: Tucson

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Love that babe on the Quick advertizing!
Definatly high quality stuff!
08-10-2005 07:14 PM
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RCfan
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Location: Longwood, FL USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Bummer ... I'm not familiar with Quick Worldwide or their line of helis, but I do feel for Irwin and what he appears to be going through. However, that is no excuse for a vendor to come into a forum and target "friend & foe alike" in what appears to be a case of "hurt feelings".

Irwin, all I can say is that the product you develop and bring to market should speak for itself. If it doesn't, or at least doesn't live up to expectations, then you should take in all the criticism and try to improve it as much as possible. If the case is that you can't, then drop the product and start from scratch. Take it as a learning experience and move on.


No matter what business you're in, you're bound to take a lot of heat and be "put down" quite a bit for your creation(s) ... it's really up to you to either accept the comments and use them positively, or do nothing about. In the end, however, you really can't blame your past, current or even future customers for any failures. That will guarantee you only BAD business!

My recommendation is to take the feedback, try to see what it is folks are "complaining" about and strive for improving your product.

Wish you the best of luck!
08-10-2005 07:14 PM
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SceaduFan
Senior Heliman
Location: Phoenix, AZ

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I have never flown a Quick but I have purchased other items from their website. I did not have any problems and the shipping was prompt. Instead of bashing this guy for posting here try to be constructive. Nothing gets solved by bashing him.
08-10-2005 08:36 PM
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Diverig
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Location: Wyoming

My Posts This: Topic  Forum
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JUST TIRED OF BEING PUTDOWN
To Friend & foe alike,

I was just looking on Runruyder & came across this thread. My name is Irwin & I think you guys really do not know anything about our produces or what me & my staff do to produce model helicopters & product line.

Right now I am in China for the past 2 weeks. You talk about Quick of Japan....well he still is making a 8 class EP That I designed 4 years ago...Look at our website we now have 4 state of the art EP helicopters with EXTREME proformance. Next week we will be at the Jamboree & the entire market will see our products proform, Including our new VIP 13-15 cell big EP.

Japan does not have a 60-90 class nitro. Why? We do & it is a great quality produce along with our 32-37 & 46 super Learner....here is the reason because it is now nearly 2 years that I ended a 12 relationship because I was tired of poor quality form Japan with deliveries 3-5 month late...Yes ask Iyobe if that is not the truth.

Do you think you can be sucessful with a partner that thinks that is timely delivery.....Then all you people are dreamers & now nothing about business.....yes I make helicopters for a living....Yes we have had some packing issues & it eats my heart every time that I hear about It. It is wrong & we seem to have a handle on it now. This has nothing to do about our quality or proformance only poor packing...


If in the past we missed some parts WE ARE 100% to make sure those parts were sent out......We are trying & we KNOW after 20 years in the RC helicopter biz what is great quality....& we believe we have the best there is. however we also understand the kits need to be 100%

We are not making toy like all I read about on this EP forum. But high quality high performace machines.....I work 24/7 & travel 4-5 months a year to make it all possible & i am tired of you guys putting me & my staff down when you do not know jack **** about about what we do.

If it is was so easy you try to make a helicopter. Your lack of compassion for our efforts is easy for you guys who sit at you PC at work & try to destroy my business that i have spent the last 20 years busting my ass to build. Yes I love what I do. How many of you would like to make RC helicopters for a living?
Well I do & I am tired of you guys who watch the clock at work putting me down when you guys should be worrying about your own jobs....

My guys works 10 /20 hours per week outout overtime Sat & Sundays
because they believe in our products....Have some respect for them....if you have a bone to pick with me my email IRWIN@QUICKWORLDWIDE.COM I do not run from anything or anyone.

I want to ask all you critics why do so many flyers say our machines are great flying & great quality....we are one in the same company...Many of you distesters never even saw one of our helicopters yet you love to critize. Just for the sake of send a post so you can move on to higher level on this website.

Well if you serious & we are a serious company with more experience in Nitro & EP than any company in the world. Take you hobby serious ask serious question not more rhetric only hurting our company & our ability to sell great machines...your guys are the real lossers....
For me i live better than 99.9% of the people that live on this earth & appreciate ever moment of my life & am sick of you guys killing us.
If I close my doors my life will not change I have enough supply of helicopters to fly for the rest of my life....

Well here is your chance again....I have 20 kits any model all at 40% of...if you build it & you think our products are JUNK I will close my business becsause I am then just pissing in the wind....

If you can be honest & are only our to hurt our company please just continue to fly you plastic junk & toys...Because you are not ready for us......

Sincerely Irwin Siner

Quickheli.com


The sound of a sinking ship.
08-10-2005 08:53 PM
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webbhost
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Location: england - Leicester

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		no quick helicopter for me.

Irwin, no offence, if this is what i think it is, i have indeed heard some bad stories about the quick helicopters, and not many good stories... this why you are fustrated as a guess?

Rather than starting to complain on a forum to potential customers because they are picking up bad things about your products, why dont you ask them how you can improve your helicopters to get them to the highest standards possible?

Listening to your customers has got to be the best advice you could ever be given because its not what "you" want in a helicopter its what your customers want, and if they are complaining, then it means customers are not happy.

meh
08-10-2005 10:09 PM
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xcell1
Senior Heliman
Location: Massillon Ohio

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Quick Helis

Hi every one, this is my two cents. I have a Quick 60 and it flys great, service from HHI has been good by mail and by phone. Take note that I fly Xcell helis also one of the best helis on the market among others. I think the quick line of helis are a good choice for the new and old alike.
I think Irwin is doing what he can to fix the problems in the past. So just give the guy some room to work things out. He can't be as bad as everyone thinks or he would not be around anymore.


Thanks , Just my 2 cents

Home Grown in South Carolina
08-11-2005 03:55 PM
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