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e-E-Flite Blade MSR CP CX MCX 400-3D > Don't hover Blade Inverted with Cell Phone
 
 
Invertedflyby
Senior Heliman
Location: TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Man this is awesome. Check out these two vids, These were taken with my cell phone. The blade has plenty of power I don't know why some people think they have to put a brushless in it (we all have to mess with stuff though). I've been flying mine upside down and doing loops and rolls all day with it. I have been flying it with the aerobatic kit but to lift the camera I put the Flat Bottom Blades back on. My Blade has never had the sticky collective problem, until I put the camera on, don't know why that is. Check out the first video.

Flying around with Roll

Then check the second video.

CrashBoom

As you can see hovering upside down with a phone zip tied to the Blade is not a good idea. I think the phone fell into the main gear or maybe it had a boom strike or something but it did not like it and it locked up. I just stood there and watched it fall, I could see it was jerking so I turned off the idle up while it was on the way down. It landed in the grass and did quite a bit of damage. The canopy is cracked and main shaft bent and blades ruined but I don't care about those since they were flat bottom. Gear is broke but I've been gluing that back together. Other than that I can't find anything wrong. Probably about $25 worth of damage. Fortunately the cell phone is okay, not a scratch on it. But if it wasn't I have insurance on it, I don't know if it covers falling from 200 feet.

This is a cheap fun way to do AP

These videos are .3gp Nokia Files but they will play in Quicktime Player.

I've heard some people talk about an airwolf body, where do you get those?
06-16-2005 Over year old.
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SkidBreaker
Heliman
Location: Asheville, NC

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		LoL! Good stuff bro, thanks for sharing!!
06-16-2005 Over year old.
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midwestpilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Crystal Lake, IL

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Damn Bro...

How do you see that thing so high up?

Century Helicopter sells the airwolf lexan bodies for the hummingbird that with some mods will work. the tail is about 1 inch longer than the hummingbird so it will stick out a bit. You could probably shorten the boom a bit..tail does not seem close at all to the main blades. I am just going to let the tail stick out a bit so I can use the heli in or out of the shell. I don't know if the sale is still on but they were selling the bodies for 19 bucks with landing gear and a 370 motor.

In life there is no spacebar!

Rich Erikson AMA 6175
06-16-2005 Over year old.
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Invertedflyby
Senior Heliman
Location: TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Thanks SB,

I don't know I haven't had a problem with it up high, the yellow shows up pretty good. I have had it higher out at the real flying field but didn't want to get it higher in the city. Thanks for the airwolf info.

As an aside, my friend said his phone was sitting next to his blade when it rang and his blade went nuts, so I was really taking a chance that no one would call me while it was up in the air.
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Invertedflyby
Senior Heliman
Location: TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		NY, thanks for the compliment. I always get really high before I fly my heli. I will take this advice you left for someone else in another thread, especially the last sentence.

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You also took advice from an internet forum which has done NOTHING to teach people how to setup a basic machine. This is not a beginner's website to begin with. You really should BUY a good book! ANY book with photos in it. Even a 30 yr. old one, since aerodynamics have not changed. Only the ability to BS on the internet without having to look anyone in the eye.


I guess I better not fly my Helicopter anymore until I buy your e-book you've been hawking all over the net. Does it have a chapter warning of the dangers of drugs and R/C helicopters?
06-17-2005 Over year old.
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Invertedflyby
Senior Heliman
Location: TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yes I treat the Blade as a toy. I do stupid things with because it is a fun little toy, but not in the vicinity of people. It allows me to learn how to fly better without the risk to my bigger more expensive helicopters. When I fly glow Helis and fixed wing at an AMA sanctioned field I do nothing of the sort.

I never claimed to be more experienced than you, I'm probably not when it comes to R/C Helicopters. But I don't go around putting people down either, especially if they aren't as experienced as me.

I'm glad you're an expert at real aircraft too, and pull that out of the bag on an R/C website to show them up when someone stands up to your rude comments non eye to eye on the internet. Actually looking over your weird comments to others and the fact that you know everything I don't think I would want to get in a REAL aircraft with you.

I guess this Commerical-Pilot Airplane Single & Multiengine Land; Instrument Airplane, First Class Medical certificate, and tailwheel endorsement I'm holding doesn't mean much since I'm a jackass with my blade. The stick time in the R22 and NOTAR probably doesn't mean much either. It is a totally different type of flying than toying around with the blade so don't attempt to say that if I do something crazy with a small electric helicopter I do the same thing when I get in a full size aircraft that I trained many hours to learn how to fly in an professional manner.

I apologize for mocking your book, I'm sure it has lots of good information and you worked hard on it. But don't say that internet boards like this have done nothing to teach people to setup a machine.
The information is out there, it's just not condensed, you have to search for it.
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PaulH-MA
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Location: Boston, MA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		He shoots, he scores, game over! Bub-bye NY! LOL

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PaulH-MA
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Location: Boston, MA

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What score? There's no SCORE, we BOTH have different opinions.


You're quite right, the two of you have different opinions. However, one of you comes off as a self-centered egotistical a$$hole. The other doesn't.

--Paul

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06-19-2005 Over year old.
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Invertedflyby
Senior Heliman
Location: TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Dude, chill, it's a hobby not a profession except for a very few.

In your first post when you said I was a Whack Job I didn't know if you were joking or not, I almost left it alone and I should have, but I bit and here we are.

Yes I am a pilot, no I'm not a HAM or an expert in radio frequencies, I didn't know R/C and Cell Phones were close together. Yes I thought it might interfere with it if it rang and I flew it anyway accepting that risk. No that is not what caused my helicopter to crash.

Yes I liked flying the R22, I'm not a full size heli pilot so I can't say whether it flies good or bad but from what I remember it was easier to fly than the NOTAR and a level D S-76 sim.

DISCLAIMER: DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PUT A CELL PHONE ON YOUR R/C HELICOPTER. YOUR GIRLFRIEND MIGHT CALL AND CAUSE YOUR HELICOPTER TO CRASH AND HURT SOMEONE.

Can we drop it now?
06-19-2005 Over year old.
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Skiddz
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Location: Carlsbad, CA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Those vids were too cool.. Sorry, but I did laugh out loud when the inverted flight went awry...

Now, as a commercially rated heli pilot, I can tell you the R22 is a handful in the beginning, but it's got a LOT of tailrotor authority compared to other heli's I've flown. (R44, C269, MD500D) It's a piece of cake to fly once you've figured it all out.

As for not strapping one's cell phone to their Blade... I think I may ignore that advice and try it myself..

A helicopter is 10,000 parts spinning rapidly around an oil leak.
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gmcullan
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Location: Southbridge, MA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		R/C aircraft and current cellular phones are SOOOO far apart in operating frequency that I wouldn't even worry about 3rd order intermodulation.

Oh, and besides my R/C activities, I am a private pilot, licensed SEL, SES, as well as a former "Ham".

But I guess that qualifies me for nothing.

Gerry Cullan,
Gaui 200, T-Rex 250, 450 SE & SA, HDX300, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
04-19-2006 Over year old.
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walter23
Senior Heliman
Location: calgary ab

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Yeah, R/C is at 72mhz and cellphones somewhere between 800 and 900, I think... though I don't know much about how radio interference works - ie, whether there is some kind of harmonics effect...

I've noticed my blade CP transmitter interferes with the TV, though I'm not sure whether or not the relationship is reciprocal. I doubt it - broadcast TV is obviously ubiquitous and doesn't seem to interfere with our flying.


Cool videos. I might try strapping a light camera to my blade CP sometime, once I get it flying again. It's in the box awaiting a paycheque and some parts

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Another blade CP first-time heli owner.
04-20-2006 Over year old.
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Squirrlybird
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Location: Suffolk, Va US

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		This is an old old post! I still remember laughing at this e-book guy on this topic!
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