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e-JR Vibe 500, Parkmite, Voyager-E > Hacker C40-9L
 
 
Ralphw
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Location: Spring, TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum

If your looking for the Heli to pull the head from, I can't say that I have seen any at all recently. If your looking for just the head, that one I've never seen sold seperately. So I guess in both cases...Nope !!

Ralph W.
"Life's Short, Fly Fast"
12-26-2004 Over year old.
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LUCKY09
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Location: ORANGE ,CA.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hi Ralph

Do you think the head of Quick EP 10 should fit VE ? Let me know , Thank.......

Dien Vu
12-26-2004 Over year old.
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Ralphw
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Location: Spring, TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		The EP10 head itself should fit fine. The swashplate on the EP10 is reversed from the Quick 15 (puts the antirotation pin at the wrong place) and while you can probably modify it, the stock VE swash will also work.

Ralph W.
"Life's Short, Fly Fast"
12-26-2004 Over year old.
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rrandal1
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Location: West Linn, Oregon

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		For whatever it is worth,

I flew a VE with a C40-9L. I flew the ship with both 8 cells and 10 cells. It was not really a 3D monster, but it did have enough power to fly around comfortably. I can't remember for sure, but I tried pinions from 15 teeth on up to 20ish. I'd gladly tell you which one I liked best but have since sold the bird and can not remember for the life of me. It might've been a 19 tooth.

I too wonder if you are having an issue with the speed control. Maybe a timing setting isn't quite right? When using the governor on my VE (I had a hacker controller), I had to raise the throttle to about 1/2, lower it down and bring it back up again slowly. If I started from zero and went right to full throttle, it would never fully spool up.

Other things to check would be the tighness of the tail rotor belt and gear mesh. On my VE, everything moved very freely. There might be something binding, creating the lack of power.

Good luck. Sounds like a challenge to figure out. Who knows, maybe it is a bad motor?
12-27-2004 Over year old.
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helinut01
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Location: USA

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hey Ralph,

I live close to hobbies and heli's in Cooperstown , PA and he carries the quick line of helicopters. I will take a short trip up there to see him and purchase one of those heads there. I called him and he stated that he has them for $200.00 so I guess it will be worth the trip.

Scott C.
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Helinut
12-31-2004 Over year old.
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River Rat
Senior Heliman
Location: Mt Wolf, Pa.

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		You might want to look at KSJ's Voyager E's parts. Len has them on his site.
KSJ 1220 Main rotor center hub $63.99
KSJ 1519 Main blade grip set $99.99

This link to parts page, scroll down to Voyager E specific.
http://www.rchelisplus.com/K&Spartspricelist.htm


Also seesaw arms and such for the E.
I wouldn't want any Quick parts on my E.
They be purple too.
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Ralphw
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Location: Spring, TX

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I wouldn't want any Quick parts on my E.


Why not...have you tried one??

I've been flying one on my VE for almost two years and it is a hell of an improvement on the stock or the KSJ upgrade. The geometry is improved over the stock head design and it has been bullet-proof in operation.

The KSJ parts are fine, but they don't change the stock head design and by the time you get all the upgrades (metal swash, washout, seesaw, head block, grip set and arms you could buy a complete Quick kit and have money left over.

Nothing against KSJ, I love their stuff, but in this case the Quick parts are better and more economical.

Ralph W.
"Life's Short, Fly Fast"
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KnimRod
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Michigan

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Ralph, Have you tried the KSJ upgrade parts? In my case, I would just rather leave my VE, well..., a VE.

I'm pretty happy with my KSJ parts and the heli can still outperform my flying ability. The KSJ upgrade parts are a significant improvement over the stock plastic parts. The KSJ MR hub is a major improvement. ronlund.com also sells the KSJ upgrade parts and he discounts thems a little. It would be worth a call.

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Ralphw
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Location: Spring, TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hey Lance,

My apologies if I sounded like I was putting down the KSJ parts, I have tried them and personally prefer my Quick head, but that is strictly a personal preference. What I took exception to was River Rat's implication that the Quick parts were in some way inferior. From a dollar standpoint, the KSJ parts for the head didn't give me enough "bang for the buck". Their quality is quite high and I still use some parts where they make sense for me (motor mount, T/R assembly).

Ralph W.
"Life's Short, Fly Fast"
12-31-2004 Over year old.
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007
Senior Heliman
Location: WHEELING WV

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		flip

flip your head and youll have plenty of lift Ron
01-02-2005 Over year old.
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marsBme
Heliman
Location: San Francisco

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hey Guys,
I'm back working on my 1st VE, the one that started this thread because I couldn't get it to fly. Well, I'm back in the shop and I still can't get it off the ground. Here is the problem again. As the rotor head spools up, it's spinning at around 1800 rpm. This is with an astro 20 with an 8 cell 3300 mah pack. Now I know that supposedly this isn't a great motor, but still it should fly and be good for mild 3D, right?
Anyways as it spools up and it's about to lift off, the rotor head dramatically reduces it's speed to around 1000rpm's and the heli starts to get a very bad wobble from the instability. I've checked the 2 main gears and they don't rub, I've checked the main shaft colar, it was set tightly as I pressed down on the rotor head and there is no movement, I've checked the tail belt drive and it is not tight, and I'm running a 15 t pinion so there should be pleanty of power. None the less, as soon as I get to half stick to get into a hover, the motor starts to strain and it will not lift off. I also have checked the pitch. I'm -10 +10 and at around +4, +5 at hover/ midstick.
What now??
thanks for any tips on this crazy ship,
marsBme--->
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KnimRod
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Michigan

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Are you sure the battery pack is up to snuff? I'd stick a voltmeter on the battery when increasing pitch and see if the voltage is taking a dump.
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Ralphw
Key Veteran
Location: Spring, TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		marsBme,

Which speed control are you using?? It's possible that you're pulling too much amperage for the ESC and causing it to limit the current.

Another possibility is the pinion slipping on the motor shaft. If this is an older Astro motor (not sure about the newer ones) they did not have a flat ground on the shaft. I had my pinion come completely loose even though I had locktited it down (not enough pressure on the shaft). I finally had to grind a flat so the set screw had a place to lock on.

At least it's a couple of things to look at.

Ralph W.
"Life's Short, Fly Fast"
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marsBme
Heliman
Location: San Francisco

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hey Ralph,
Thanks for getting back to me. In terms of the speed control, it is the one that comes with the astro motor, the 35 amp combo deal. It says that at hover it only draws 150 watts and can handle up to 300 watts. It says that no adjustments are needed either.
I did put a flat spot on the shaft, but I will make it more defined. I don't think that this is the problem because I had the same situation with 2 other motors.
I'm really out of ideas with this one. I spoke to horizon and they said to send it back to them and if they can't fix it, they will replace it.
thanks for all you input,
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01-12-2005 Over year old.
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441
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Location: Hong Kong

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		It has been quoted before that the VE has a very high wing loading.
subsequently would a B50-9S (4100kv) or similar be an overkill with a 3S lipoly? I too am trying to get the most from my VE (currently battling along with a B40-8L) and would like to have excessive power available. I am having trouble finding the significant differences between the C40-8L and the B40-8L although I am sure they are very different motors.
11-15-2005 Over year old.
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g2loq
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Location: Montreal - QC - Canada

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Hacker C40-8L or Twist 37 ?

Hi guy, what could be the best choice for my Voyager E with a CC60 ESC and 3s3p lipo batteries ?
My local dealer propose me for nearly the same price (Hacker is a little bit more expensive) a Hacker C40-8L or Twist 37. I saw many comment for the Hacker and few for the Twist...
Let me know
12-05-2005 Over year old.
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Ralphw
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Location: Spring, TX

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		I don't know much about the Twist, but I do know that the Hacker is a simple drop in replacement for the stock motor. Same shaft size, same mounting bolt spacing and a built in heatsink. Toss a 17t pinion on there and you'll have all the headspeed you could want.

I personally tend to go with proven products and the Hacker is a VERY well proven product on the VE.

Ralph W.
"Life's Short, Fly Fast"
12-05-2005 Over year old.
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CARLOS LUIS
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Location: Maracaibo, Zulia - Venezuela

My Posts This: Topic  Forum		Where do i find a pinion 9t for this motor?

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