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Well I have been lucky enough to not have the Zoom fail inflight. Yes the gears are a lil fragile but cheap. How ever I did crash the eolo do to the Main gear stripping "Inflight" , I have the 3rd bearing mod now and the gears dont strip.So 370.00 + 50.00 for third bearing puts the Eolo with no motor, Killer blades and a great kit for $420.00 . + the tail drive mod $35.00 455.00 Not too mention the 4to6 hours labor on the Eolo , Which I enjoy building! I have about $400.00 bucks into my shogun with lipos and a 401, and a BL motor. I could buy 3 shoguns for the price of 1 of my Eolos.

For the average joe that likes the hobby and has other things to do besides fly RC helis, Get the Shogun or Zoom. If all you do is fly helis get the Eolo Its a better heli and alot more money.
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tabbytabb
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A nice H2 will lay the smack down on either the zoom or the eolo for 3d flying.

I run all stock heli mechanics on my H2 with good electronics(same as any helicopter) and have owned both the zoom and the eolo and I would choose the H2 any day of the week.

My H2 can do anything that I am capable of and anything that any of my more experienced friends can think of, and it takes this abuse and keeps on flying. The tail drive doesnt have serious issues like the zoom, the blades arent made out of depron like the zoom and it doesnt require substantial upgrades to rock like the eolo.

I run an
Axi 2208/20 with 3 cell lithiums and the power is unreal, first micro I have ever seen that will do Tic Tocs, and I dont mean smooth reversals, I mean collective slapping tic tocs.

Look around, how many videos do you see of the zoom or eolo flying like this

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...ht=hornet+video

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...ht=hornet+video

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...ht=hornet+video

Dont take my words for it, let the videos do the talking.

I throw down the gauntlet, find me some videos of any other micros throwing down like this, or an eolo.

Tabb
05-18-2004 Over year old.
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rickc
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I had a piccolo, a hornet and now have a Shogun on order; I'm just tired of heli's that glue together. The Shogun/Zoom might not be a Ferrari but it's not bad from what I've read on the forums. I have a Hacker on the way for it. I told myself no more micros but the Shogun was too appealing...

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Modefo's Heli's
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Its not even a Ford Pinto In my humble opinion
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tabbytabb
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Right on Modefo A hornet takes a certain kind of person, but it undoubtedly is the best performer

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I cannot speek for any Hornet . The market already did from what I understand. Everybody said its junk. How many of you zoom haters actally own one??? Since I dont hate ,am just unfamiliar with the Hornet line choppers. Maybe I should fork another 8 hundy for a H2. or should I just keep my 2 Eolos,Raptor 30 and my shogun with another one on the way!

The zoom seems to be New to our market here in the states. Lets go back to when the Hornet and the EOLO were new to our market. Hmmm Eolo tail vibez. Fragile landing gear.Main gear train need upgrade bearing.. And The hornet ... lets not go there.

Im done here. Enjoy flying whatever you end up with and whatever you own, have fun flying it. Thats all that counts. I am sure you guys could go back and forth over what little toy heli is better or best 4 ever.
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Modefo's Heli's
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If you build the Hornet right its perfect.I have bought a few Hornets from guys saying they are junk and they were going to a Zoom.Come to find out they had bearings in the wrong place and all kinds of other mistakes in building.The Zoom does come built but Thats about it.The quality though is Poor at best.I have them all and the only heli of my personal fleet I have ever sold was my brand new Zoom.(after I replaced the tail gears tht striped in the first 5 minutes)

When they get the bugs out it will be a nice heli,I admit.But that doesnt mean the Hornet2 is junk just because someone does a shotty job assembling it.
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rickc
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There may be a hand full of pilots that have enough patients to get the glue togethers flying well. The H2 is probably a great choice and I considered buying one just a few months back but I couldn't bring myself to do it. The glue/debonding issue is the factor for me; you can easily do a search here and find pilots who unloaded the Hornets after trying out the micros. Maybe there are just a few who can build them perfect, I think not. It's more like you have it on the bench more than your flying it and have the ca and debonder handy, get it flying and one incident and you have to totally retune it. There is already some improvements being found and used for the Zoom. I wont mind unbolting the tail to put in some gears.....

This guy seems to like it.. http://runryder.com/helicopter/p794838/#p794838

Rick
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tabbytabb
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Thats cus he hasnt discovered that the tail gears are made from a special new formula of sawdust and elmers glue. Also I dont know what you are talking about on the Ca/ Debonder issue on the H2?? I can take my tail off just by loosening a screw and unbolting the tail supports. Not much different from the zoom. The only place where the new hornet is glued is on the frame/landing gear interface so I dont know how this makes maintenance difficult. But this is beside the point, as we all know helis are designed to fly, not to crash.

My H2 will run without incident until I decide to put it in. and when I do it takes very little time and repair to get it back in the air.

Tabb
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Buzzsaw46
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$40 dollars, my buddy crashed his H1 inverted from about 6' and it only cost $15 to get it back in the air we can argue this all day long and some will believe that the Zoom/Shogun is superior but I have a hard time believing that a 500g micro will fly as good as a 300g heli of the same size!

I would tend to agree with Modefo the guys that dont like the Hornet 2 didnt build or set it up properly.
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Spread out!
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ZzzZZzzZZ... Back on topic, Eolo or zoom? Both are great helis, do a search. Good luck finding the one to suit your flying style!

There is a Hornet forum , directly above this forum on the home page.
Check it out!

I feel like I am reading a Hornet2 Campaign for President!

Which one of you is the unknown salesman, I might want one now.
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rickc
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Got any videos of you ringing your H2 out Tabb? Do you make it eat or would a FP do you justice? You pointed out what others can do with their Hornets, just wondered why you like such a performance minded machine, setting goals for yourself?

Rick
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tabbytabb
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Rick once again you made this personal, I guess when you cant have a coherent argument about the issue that is your tactic. Its not about what I can do with my hornet, its about what the hornet can do versus the rest of its competition.

Your argument is like saying that if someone cant 3d yet they should get a corona since thats all the performance they need, thats a well thought out point.

The only reason I bring this up is because I dont want people to be dissapointed with what they get, I have gone down this road too many times myself and it is expensive and frustrating.

And since its personal now, please post some videos of your zoom when it comes, I would love to see the flying that is behind all this talk, oh wait the zoom will be on the work bench I am sure due to the depron tail gears

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Spread out!
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Lets try to keep the typical RR BS to minimum hear in the EOLO forum. This is a good friendly place to come for Info on the Eolo, lets not make it like the majority of the pissing contests here on RR.

To me... Helis are about fun and being broke. I dont care if all you Know how to do is crash, as long as your having fun doing it.
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rocheleaud
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Well said Spread out ...

And now , back on the subject ... just for the fun of it here is a link to a video that i made this morning and that i posted on ezone . It 's not a direct contest against a zoom ... it's just me doing some garden 2d with my Eolo . I landed on a recycle bin ... and i am pretty pround of it . It can give you a idea of the stability of the eolo outside ( watch the leafs ot the tree , you will notice that it was a bit windy , i cound'nt fly the corona because of some wind burst and i don't like it when it go too hight ) .

right clic and save ... it's 20megs ( i am sorry for those who use a modem )

http://homepage.mac.com/logomaniac1/.Movies/eolo.mov
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nice video you should see... joshes video on my site I just mixed in some music it rox

Jeremy
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JohnM
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Location: Providence, RI - USA

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I have owned and flown both. If you can afford the Eolo, get an Eolo. The quality of the Eolo is a big step above the Zoom.
I am not sure of how big your flying area is but this should also be a consideration. The Eolo is the same size as the Corona and the Zoom is much smaller.
Like you, I also learned on a Corona and was spoiled with the durability and low maintenance cost of the Corona. I went from the Corona to an Eolo for my first CP helicopter. The Eolo is a superb flying machine and from what I have seen, if adequately equipped (and in the hands of a qualified pilot), it will perform any possible maneuver just as well as any glow machine I have witnessed at the flying field.
With that said, I am far from an advanced heli pilot and do not have the desire to get to that level. I have since sold my Eolos to pursue my main heli interest, which is micros, and eventually, once I fully master all controlled (non 3-D) flight, I plan to pursue building and flying scale micros.
I now own a Zoom and a modified FP Dragonfly micro. As I stated before, the quality of the Zoom is far beneath the Eolo, but it is still a great flying micro and fits my needs. A big realization from going from the Corona to the Eolo was the increased amount of damage even in mild crashes. My learned intuition (10 years of flying planks) of bringing the throttle to low (off) when I knew the Corona was going to crash did not help at all when flying a CP heli with a constant head speed throughout the throttle curve. I learned all to soon that crashing a CP heli with the blades still trying to spin at full bore was not a pretty site and it has still not become second nature to me to flip that throttle hold switch!
The repair costs of the Eolo (and most any CP heli) add up quickly if you are crashing on a regular basis. The repair costs of crashing my Zoom are lower especially since I have converted it to a direct drive tail. I actually still fly my FP Dragonfly micro more than the Zoom since I don’t worry about crashing as much which lets me concentrate on improving my flying skill.
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RMoore
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Hi John,

Just read your post on the Eolo or Zoom thread. I also progressed from a Corona to an Eolo (bought your carbon Eolo tail boom) and am now considering going to a Zoom for reasons similar to yours.

I'm curious about your direct-drive tail mod on the Zoom. Is there a thread about that somewhere? If not, can you provide me some details and maybe a picture? I don't want to hijack this thread, so maybe you could e-mail me at wrmoore47 ~at~ comcast.net.

Thanks!

Randy
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electron_flyer
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Location: Cape Town, South Africa

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Ok this quote from Dragonfly (about the Zoom) finally did it for me:

"Right now i'm not using any throttle mixing at all. I went out and did flips today in 15 mph wind with gust up to 20, and I can tell you that it flies just like my Raptor 30V2. "

Thanks mate! Now where to find one of these beasties.....
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This quote is also from Dragonfly

I have 2 zoom helis and with both of them my tail vibrates when I get at about 50% throttle. I have found that there is a problem with the tail blades. I have checked the balance of the blades, but after I spin it up to where it starts to vibrate, and stop it 1 blade is leading the other one. I have tried running them from very loose to very tight and the same results every time. I can run Hornet blades and it runs fine. Would someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'm starting to get a complex here. I would run the hornet blades but they are too short for 3D. Please help.
Mark

I would be carefull not to get caught up in the hype.
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