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Sunday August 5 - Day 12 - Going Home
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Everybody met at hotel parking lot at 4:45. It was already bright enough to fly, but all of us were ready to go home. All the rent cars were full of boxes and luggage. After Rolando paid hotel bills, we left the Hotel Aleksander at 5:15. We had to make a stop at Art Hobby to drop off models and rent cars. Art hobby was taking care of boxes for FedEx to ship everybody’s models.

We arrived at Warsaw airport at 9:15. The airport wasn’t big, so ticket counters were jam packed with international flights and domestic (European) flights. Curtis was heading back to UK then going his home, so he had long trip ahead. We witnessed one guy trying to catch New York flight with 3 big kitchen knives and a couple dozen of beers to carry on the plane. He didn’t look like a terrorist, but airport security people escorted out to somewhere after 30miniuts of arguments with the guy. Our flight left 30minuts late. We pretty much slept (or tried to sleep) all the way to Chicago. Rolando, Dave and Chris was way up front seats, so I didn’t see them till we got off the plane 15minuts late at 15:25. Cliff and Rolando had problem with their luggage Custom area. Rolando’s bags went to other carousel and Cliff’s bags were MIA. We had really tight lay over so Chris and I ran to Terminal 1 to catch Tampa flight. Luckily or not Tampa flight was delayed as well as Cliff’s and Wayne’s flights. We were sitting at runway for about 2 hours due to bad weather in Chicago, and somewhere south. Our flight had to go around storm, so air traffic told our captain the route extra 400miles. We didn’t have enough fuel to do that, so had to go back to gate to get more fuel… Flight arrived to Tampa a little after midnight. We all were tired, but glad to come home.

Our team manager Rolando did excellent job on raising funds for this trip and dealing with organizers. Special thanks for Chris and Art hobby people to help models clear customs. Without their help, our guys might not have models to fly. I’d like thank Mr. Al Glenn from FedEx, arranged all of our models transport from home to Poland then back to US. I was talking to Japanese team manager, and he said they brought their models with them. The excess luggage charge was over $15,000 one way! Without all the support from our sponsors and people donated their time & efforts and monetary donations, this trip was impossible.

U.S. will be hosting next F3C World Championships in Muncie. We hope we do as good job as Poland organizers did.

Nob Muraki/Cliff Hiatt
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Saturday August 4 - Day 11
 
 
We had early start today and it was long day. We had all 3 round flights, award ceremony, and banquet in all in one day.

Weather was near perfect condition in the morning. Beautiful sky, and little to no wind. When Curtis, Itou and Scott went up and they flew very well. By mid morning, wind start blow exactly weather forecasters were expecting. Dobashi was up right before Wayne and he had hard time on hovering. Wind was keep blowing when Wayne flew. He handled wind very well, but score was 440.5.

Round 1 score:


Round 2 started as scheduled. Flight order was Stefano Lucci up first. Wayne 4th, Sensui 9th, Curtis 11th,Itou 12th, and Scott Gray 15th. It was windy whole round. So the conditions were pretty equal to pretty much to everybody. Wind direction was 10 O’clock to 12 O’clock and make aerobatics and auto rotations very difficult.

Spectators clapped hands when a pilot did really nice maneuver. We heard a lot of clapping from those top pilots.

Round 2 score:


Round 3 started after lunch break. Judges were fed and happy. Wind was a little calmer, but still blowing and gusty sometimes. Hashimoto was up first. Sensui was up 4th, Curtis 6th, Itou 7th, Scott 10th, and Dobashi, Wayne 13th & 14th.

Wind was calming down finally on this round. Curtis had really nice hovering and text book aerobatics and won this round. All flight completed at 16:30. Not bad time with 45 flights and lunch break included.

Round 3 score:


We went back to hotel to start packing for return home. Award ceremony started at 18:00. By the time we got to ceremony area at 18:00, parade was already started. Luckily, US was toward the end of line, so the Poland boy scout holding USA sign didn’t have to walk by himself. Ceremony went very well. Individual’s prizes were enormous as you can see in pictures. Itou won big trophies and Toshiba laptop. Hope he has big suits cases to carry those back. He also won another laptop with Junior category winner. After the ceremony, they had Russian military helicopter fly on top of our head. It was a nice demo flight.

Closing banquet started at 20:00. Everybody rushed to hotel from ceremony to hotel, cleaned up and made to hotel Mlyn which is ½ miles from our hotel. Banquet room was packed. About 300 people in one room, and the A/C room couldn’t keep room cool enough. We sat the table with Polish team and other VIP’s. There were a few wine and vodka bottles on the table. Dwight and Cliff jumped on and started have fun. Only one pilot from Polish team spoke English, but they were very nice guys. I had a few shots of vodka with them, but there was no way I could keep up with them.
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Friday August 3 - Day 10
 
 
Today was the first fly off for top 15 pilots to decide the individual championship The day dawned with a light rain coming down. The organizers decided to postpone flying until 16:00 because weather radar showed the entire country ‘under the weather’. The rain stopped around 10:00 but the sky was pretty dark with occasional low ceilings and sprinkles. We (Rolando, Cliff, Denise and I) decided to go to the Wloclawek Town Square to do a little souvenir shopping. Curtis, Dave, Wayne and Dwight headed to practice field for more work. They apparently did some practice done for the different wind direction they experienced the day before.

We went back to field around 14:00 because we needed to clarify the reasoning behind a change to the preliminary round normalization system done on Tuesday night. Originally, the event started under a ‘local rule’ that changed the score averaging (used to normalize all pilots) with new scoring rule, which should be implemented from next year, but they changed the rule to current system after 2nd round (recalculated after the change of cause.) If they kept the rule we started the event, Dwight was 15th place, and he would been in final rounds. Horace clarified that FAI Juries were capable to change those local rules, so the chance of Dwight been to the final round had ended…

At 16:00, Cliff and other 2 pilots did judges scoring calibration flight, and first round of final rounds started after 16:20. Curtis was up first and wind was fairly calm although still overcast sky. He had decent flight. Following was Itou. He had excellent flight without wind (he flew excellent with wind too.) By the time Scott Gray was up, wind started to blow. Dobashi was up right before Wayne and started to rain again, so organizers stopped the round and decided to re start the round 7:00 tomorrow morning.

Sorry I couldn’t post anything today. Connection was so slow and I was tired, so I gave up for today.
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Thursday August 2 - Day 9
 
 
Another beautiful day this morning. Temp was16 degrees, but should go up to 22 degrees or so and wind changing directions from past 3 days.

Wayne was up early with very little wind, but coming from 4 O’clock position. He ran into trouble when he was doing flipping pull back, but rests of maneuvers were pretty good. Dwight was up at 12:23. Wind was come and go, but his hovering was superb. His aerobatics were very clean. Since he was down the standings, he needed good flight.

Curtis was up alter. His hovering was not sitting too well, but aerobatics were clean as usual. At the end of push over, his motor started to cut off (no it was not out of fuel.) He landed safely on right side of field, but Dave was unable to call auto… Since he was doing big and fast maneuvers today, he was taxing battery packs and used up all the electrons in the 4900mAh packs. When he recharged the packs at practice field, it took 5200+mAh.

Result was as follows at the end of 4 rounds:

  1. Hiroki Itoh
  2. Scott Gray
  3. Kazuyuki Sensui
  4. Manabu Hashimoto
  5. Yokohiro Dobashi
  6. Manabu Hashimoto
  7. Wayne Mann
  8. Curtis Youngblood
  9. Laurent Lombard
  10. Barnhard Egger
  11. Enno Graber
  12. Rudiger Feil
  13. Steve Roberts
  14. Stefano Luci
  15. Oliver Wessel
It was very unfortunate that Dwight did not fish in the top 15, but the weather conditions he had to fly in during the 1st and 2nd rounds pretty much took his chance way from doing that. On the two flights where he flew in more reasonable conditions, he was able to demonstrate his abilities very well.

The Team results were as follows:
  1. Japan
  2. USA
  3. Austria
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Wednesday August 1 - Day 8
 
 
It’s a beautiful morning today. Temperature is like 15 degree C. with no wind to speak of.

We seceded to go to official practice field because the wind condition there is very similar to the contest sites. When we got to practice site about 8:30, Japanese team member Dobashi and Sensui were getting ready to start practice. We joined them and Dwight had a good session. Wayne had to leave at 9:30, because his flight time was getting close.

Dwight and I (Nob) left practice field about 10:15 to catch Wayne’s flight at 11:30. Field supposed to be just 30 minutes ride, but there was several constructions and ended up taking one hour. We barely caught Scott Gray’s flight and made for Wayne’s. Wind was very calm compare to past 2 days. He missed some flags on hover, but aerobatics were excellent. Dwight was up after judges’ lunch. His start time was called at 14:30. When he tried to start, engine was flooded and would not start. He finally got motor started 2 minutes left, but he managed to leave the ready box without going into flight time. When he left ready box, wind started to blow again, and this time is cross wind. He handled the wind very well and even he missed circle on auto, he had very nice score.

Curtis was up 2nd pilot from Dwight.. His hovering was not the best I’ve seen, but aerobatic were nice and scored high score on Line B.

After the round, we went back to practice field and practiced till we were hungry. I believe it was first day it did not rain. Wayne and Curtis is standing top 5 as of now. Hope Dwight get some break from wind god and bring his scores tomorrow.
Tuesday July 31 - Day 7
 
 
Well, it’s cold and windy again this morning. Temperature is 11 degrees C, and wind blowing somewhere 5~10m/, and the only thing missing from yesterday is rain.

Dwight was up 6th today. Sky was very similar to yesterday’s and windsock got be tired of laying dead sideway past 2 days. It was blowing 9m/s when Dwight was up. He flew well under the circumstances. He hovered well except altitude control due to gust. His comment was “Men, why can’t I get any break from wind…”

Curtis was up 2nd from Dwight. He had same share of wind as Dwight. He was having trouble in the hovering as well, but his aerobatics were good. Right before Wayne’s flight was Scott Gray. Scott had windy condition and started to rain after flipping pullback. He completed the flight, but officials decided to let him again fly at the end of round. Wayne was up after rain and wind calmed down quite bit. He capitalized the calm wind and very nice flight. His score was mostly 8’s and 9’s. Scott Gray’s re-flight was end of the day and very calm compared to it had been all day, but sky was all gray just like his name and very hard to see his bullet machine. He had another great flight.
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Monday July 30 - Day 6
 
 
Another long day at the office. We left the hotel at 6:30 for the contest site. It was raining, windy (much more that yesterday) and cold. The rain was so bad that they delayed the start by an hour to let the ceiling clear out enough to fly. By then, the wind was about 25 mph with gusts higher. Wayne was first up and really got beat up pretty bad. Dwight was next, followed by Curtis a couple of pilots later. All three guys had problems in their flights and weren't happy after they landed, with both Wayne and Dwight blowing one maneuver each. We went over to the other line and watched the Japanese team fly. Generally, they handled the conditions better. After we watched the big name flyers we went to lunch and then Wayne and Cliff went out to the practice site to work on controlling the wind gusts in a hover. They had a good session at the field and I think his confidence improved. Curtis was there too, working on getting his model to hover better in the gusts. We finally returned to the hotel at about 7:30 pm. All in all the weather was pretty severe today and more is forecast for tomorrow.

Later in the day, after a rain squall blew through, Scott Gray and Hiroki Itou flew in some pretty decent conditions. As a result they are sitting atop the heap on their respective flight lines. More bad weather is forecast for tomorrow, so we’ll see how the placings are after the second round.

For dinner, Nob, Chris, Rolando, Dwight and Cliff went to a fantastic sushi restaurant in downtown Wloclawek. Seems that no matter where we go, we can find good sushi!!! The Japanese team was there when we arrived and seemed to be enjoying themselves.
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Sunday July 29 - Day 5
 
 
Temperature dropped to 15 degrees C today and it was very windy. Rolando and Cliff went to turn in transmitters early while the boys went to the practice site to work some more. Frequency checks were done and the practice flights began. Cliff watched the Japanese practice and was very impressed with the Hiroki Itou’s (defending champion) flight. Cliff then went to the other line and performed one of 3 judges ‘calibration flights’. He reported that flight line A had some pretty severe turbulence as a result of the location to the airport hangers. Our guys would fly their practice flights on the other line.

Curtis was first to fly his practice flight, lots of people were there to watch his electric machine. But he decided to only practice hovering maneuvers, I think they were disappointed that he didn’t fly any aerobatics! Wayne flew next and got a whole round in. Dwight ended up being short changed with flight time, he had to land before he was done. Seems as though the organizers are going to run the event on a strict time schedule! All in all, the guys seemed to be happy with their practice flights.

The day ended up with a picnic at the Myln hotel. The food was great and a good time was had by all. When we left the hotel to come home, it was raining pretty hard. Not a good sign of things to come.
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Saturday July 28 - Day 4
 
 
It was a beautiful morning at Wloclawek. Curtis, Wayne, Dwight and I were heading to practice field. Rolando and Cliff were heading to Team managers’ meeting. Then later on, we had opening ceremony at main flying site.

Pilots headed to practice field at Ploc. We started flying at 8:30. Everybody seemed to getting finalizing their machines. Both Dwight and Wayne had problem with which machine to choose as primary, but at the end of the day, they decided to the original backup machine would be their primary. These things do not happen very often that both machines are flying well to be the primary. Dwight and I left field and headed back to hotel about 12:30.

Cliff was chosen to do demo flight for judges on Sunday morning, so he practice a tank without any field equipment. He just to took heli, fuel and of course, his radio. He explained the field was WINDY. We had lunch with Rolando, Dwight, Chris and Art Hobby people and we had to go to mall to straighten up my cell phone and Rolando’s cell phone.

At 16:00, most of us headed to main site for opening ceremony. It started to rain a little and getting a little colder, but not freezing yet… The ceremony was held out side between flight line A and B. Each country’s team was led by Poland national traditional costumed boy scouts & girl scouts. Total entry was 74 pilots.

After the ceremony, there was a nice Air show. Full scale Extra, aerobatic full scale glider, and Russian Heli performed nice presentations. They did stuff FAA would never approve… We met many old friends from past World Championship event and some new friends. It was great to see all the people.

Tomorrow will be official team practice. US pilots are the last one up at 15:15. Each pliot has 10 minutes slot and sound check should be done that time.
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Friday July 27 - Day 3 Practice and Registration
 
 
We met for breakfast at 6:30 and headed out to practice field. It was overcast and about 20~25 degrees C. Left hotel at 7:30 and arrived to practice field a little before8:30. We laid 2nd flight line so pilots could get in more flights in less time. Things were much better then yesterday. All pilots put in 3~4 flights before we had to head to registration at the main site.

Our registration and model process was scheduled for 16:10, so we arrived at 15:40 or so. Processing wasn't busy at the time we arrived so we jumped in and finished by 16:30. No problems so far. Organizers forgot to mention in bulletins that the US flag needed to be there before registration closes. Rolando and I went back to hotel got the US flag. Some of the guys went to the practice area on the main site to see what was going on. There were several pilots putting in flights, as I'm sure was going on at the other 3 official practice sites.

We ate early dinner at the hotel and relaxed for the evening. While at restaurant, Japanese team showed up at even they were staying at other hotel, it seems our food is better (it's pretty good!). We greeted each other for old time's sake. It’s great to have friends all over the world.

Tomorrow, we will head to back to the practice site for a few hours and then to opening ceremony.
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Thursday July 26 - Day 2
 
 
It was a beautiful day this morning. Temp is like 20~25 Degree C and calm wind. We headed to our practice field about 8:00 after breakfast. The field is is located in Ploch, about 35km away and takes about an hour to get there. It is a small 'airport' with a grass runway and is promarily used as a glider port. Then we had to ask someone on to mow the area we want to fly at. The after this was completed we had a great practice field. When we finished setting up the flight line, it was past 11:00. All of the pilots had some issues initially, but most problems had straightened up by the end of day. Most significant news may be Curtis’ new machine, a JR Vibe Electric with his new design fuse. Take look at the pictures. His machine suffered some gear train issues, but with Dave Young blood's help, they changed out gears and it seems to be straightened out.

We stayed at field till 19:30 or so and then headed to the hotel. Got back to hotel and had dinner and everybody went to room to check machines over.
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Tuesday July 24 Departure
 
 
Part of team, Wayne, Dwight, Cliff, Dave Youngblood, Denise and I met at Chicago airport on Tuesday afternoon to head out to Warsaw, Poland. The flight was packed, but left Chicago with a little delay (6:00pm or so.)

When we landed at Warsaw at 10:00am 7/25, to a light drizzle and chilly air. Team manager Rolando and translator/helper Mr. Chris Bielewicz were at the airport waiting for us. It was about noon when all of us got our entire luggage. Rolando and Chris had been busy with Poland customs to clear helicopters. Evidentially, Dwight’s machines were stuck in customs and it took Rolando, Chris and local hobby store Art Hobby’s owner Mr. Wieslaw Dzik hours of negotiations over two days to get models out of customs. These thing happens all the time at the Worlds event, but it's still very stressful every time. After 2 days of constant negotiations between customs and Chris & Rolando, they were able to get all of models cleared and picked up.

We checked in the hotel Alexander a little after 16:00. We were exhausted by the time we checked in the hotel. All the pilots went to see the official site which is about 30 minutes drive, then Curtis and Wayne decided to go to our private flying field to check the site out. They came back after 20:00 or so and we had nice dinner at the hotel. After dinner, Wayne and Dwight reassembled their machines.

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SCHEDULE OF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
 
 
Wednesday July 25 - Day 1
Early arrival

Thursday July 26 - Day 2
Unofficial practice at the airfield in Lubien Kujawski

Friday July 27 - Day 3
09.00-19.00 - Arrival and registration of teams, FAI Jury and Judges
09.00-19.00 - Unofficial practice at the airfield in Lubien Kujawski,
10.00-19.00 - Model processing

Saturday July 28 - Day 4
08.30 - 16.00 - Model processing
17.00 - 19.15 - Opening Ceremony

Sunday July 29 - Day 5
07.30 - 13.00 - Official practice
13.05 - 16.05

Monday July 30 - Day 6
08.00 - 12.56 - 1st round of preliminary flights
14.40 - 16.31

Tuesday July 31 - Day 7
08.00 - 12.56 - 2nd round of preliminary flights
14.40 - 16.31

Wednesday August 01 - Day 8
08.00 - 12.56 - 3rd round of preliminary flights
14.40 - 16.31

Thursday August 02 - Day 9
08.00 - 12.56 - 4th round of preliminary flights
14.40 - 16.31

Friday August 03 - Day 10
08.00 – 10.45 - 1 st round of final flights
13.00 – 21.00 - Tour to Torun

Saturday August 04 - Day 11
07.00 - 09.45 - 2nd round of final flights
10.00 - 12.45 - 3rd round of final flights
17.00 - 20.00 - Closing ceremony

Sunday August 05 - Day 12
Departure of participants

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Here's the place to check out the latest from the World Championships in Poland. Be sure to check back daily to view the latest photos and results. Be sure to post your support of your United States as they compete to bring home the GOLD.
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Great updates. Keep it coming.
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The electric Iceman cometh!


Great coverage.

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holy crap thats a long and hard event....

Crashing hitting the ground is easy...Hitting the windsock takes skill..!
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Good luck Guys!!!


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Curtis in 3rd with E power.

we can never have too many, can we ?
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Looks like the E-Vibe is working well.
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Looks like the E-Vibe is working well.

Where can I see a video of it in action?
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Too bad you can't run over 42v or I'm sure Curtis would be running 12S. Dwight Schilling said it still had plenty of power to spare. I want to see him win with it. Come on Curtis!!!


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Can 2.4G radio now be accepted in WC event?
I saw Curtis's e-heli using 2.4G receiver in some pictures.

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Where can we find daily score results?
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Hirobo

What`s with the spring above the flybay on the Hirobo, anyone know?
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Why would Curtis go electric if everyone else is gas?
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Could you take a daily photo of the score sheets?
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Why would Curtis go electric if everyone else is gas
You eliminate one problem area when traveling with your model and that is engine tuning issues.
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(EDIT: I guess the fuel sponsors provide the fuel to the pilots. So each pilot is not responsible for their fuel.

Thanks for the clarification Dave!

I think it was in Spain when CY's case of Wildcat never showed up ? I guess he did not want that happening again!


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Why would Curtis go electric if everyone else is gas?

Isn't being different and trying new things one of the elements of a great pilot.
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All suspected answers as to why Curtis went electric are true and valid.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.
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With electric you can get a smoother, more consistent machine with a better gyro feel as the gyro is running in pristine, vibration free enviroment which alows it to run at it's maximum ability and the SC governor holds the head 100% pefect if it has good governor software which in turn aids the tail again.

I mean we see tons of electric 3D stuff, but I think FAI-F3C is where it will REALLY show its traits.

Perfectly consistent flights every flight no matter where you are in the world. Just makes sense.

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After pondering the spring on the flybar thing it suddenly came to me. The vertical levers that the spring pulls on act like distributor weights. At low RPM the levers pull in, moving the bell mixers in. At high RPM the levers swing out, moving the bell mixers out. This system gives a lower flybar ratio at low RPM and a higher flybar ratio at high RPM. The results would be inconsistent if the spring levers stopped somewhere in the middle of the slot, so the spring must have been chosen to have the levers all the way in during hover and all the way out for aerobatics.

This is backward from what I would have thought would be better. I would have expected more flybar at hover and less for aerobatics, but then I am not in the world championships so what do I know.

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